Training pass rate?
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From: Captain of my destiny
Former JetLinker... Training program was awesome! They made every effort to work with candidates/potential pilots to get through training... I saw them retrain for the systems test, and extra sim time for some of my classmates.... Urban legend of 100 hours of IOE... Thankfully, the question is “would you put your family on this flight?”
10% seems to be the average failure rate... your mileage might vary if you feel entitled/you got this/smarter than the average bear...
10% seems to be the average failure rate... your mileage might vary if you feel entitled/you got this/smarter than the average bear...
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From: Whale FO
I understand the issues with GoJet... my very good friend went to them as a street captain and failed the checkeide in the 175 - and he was already typed in it. He said the same thing - nothing is standardized and they outsource their training. Can someone enlighten me on TSA?
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From: Whale FO
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My big concern is that regionals are getting lots of applicants and they are being accepted...but the experience level in many cases is not well suited to fly a jet when most candidates have been flying C-172s. But regionals are only concerned with putting butts in seats…. is what I believe...we hire 100 and pass 25 so we have met our quota. Regional should be required to publish there pass/fail rates and the FAA should enforce this...the carrier I was at had the FAA visiting to see why they had such a high failure rate...and think about it the FAA is approving regional training programs. So you have to ask why such a high failure rate in some cases? So now you have failed your FAA check ride and now have a BIG failure in your flight record ...who else will hire you now? Why did the regional released you ...cause its bad bussiness to have a pilot flying there jet with a failure..thanks to Colgan. You have now spent a small fortune and have shot yourself in the foot for future airline employment?
Whose fault is it….most I have seen enter the regionals are very smart, professional and dedicated so what is happening. Training and lack of experience...1500 hours proves nothing...but the regionals just want butts in seat...so your roll the dice and hope you make it! Best plan of action is to get a hold of someones flows, checklists before you ever apply at the regional of your choice and start studying the Aircraft systems...well before you apply at a regional….as the failure rates at some regionals would indicate you are just rolling the dice.
Best course of action is to be well prepared before you apply at any regional! They have a quota...i just want to be a professional pilot!!!!!!!!!
Whose fault is it….most I have seen enter the regionals are very smart, professional and dedicated so what is happening. Training and lack of experience...1500 hours proves nothing...but the regionals just want butts in seat...so your roll the dice and hope you make it! Best plan of action is to get a hold of someones flows, checklists before you ever apply at the regional of your choice and start studying the Aircraft systems...well before you apply at a regional….as the failure rates at some regionals would indicate you are just rolling the dice.
Best course of action is to be well prepared before you apply at any regional! They have a quota...i just want to be a professional pilot!!!!!!!!!
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From: Clueless
My big concern is that regionals are getting lots of applicants and they are being accepted...but the experience level in many cases is not well suited to fly a jet when most candidates have been flying C-172s. But regionals are only concerned with putting butts in seats…. is what I believe...we hire 100 and pass 25 so we have met our quota. Regional should be required to publish there pass/fail rates and the FAA should enforce this...the carrier I was at had the FAA visiting to see why they had such a high failure rate...and think about it the FAA is approving regional training programs. So you have to ask why such a high failure rate in some cases? So now you have failed your FAA check ride and now have a BIG failure in your flight record ...who else will hire you now? Why did the regional released you ...cause its bad bussiness to have a pilot flying there jet with a failure..thanks to Colgan. You have now spent a small fortune and have shot yourself in the foot for future airline employment?
Whose fault is it….most I have seen enter the regionals are very smart, professional and dedicated so what is happening. Training and lack of experience...1500 hours proves nothing...but the regionals just want butts in seat...so your roll the dice and hope you make it! Best plan of action is to get a hold of someones flows, checklists before you ever apply at the regional of your choice and start studying the Aircraft systems...well before you apply at a regional….as the failure rates at some regionals would indicate you are just rolling the dice.
Best course of action is to be well prepared before you apply at any regional! They have a quota...i just want to be a professional pilot!!!!!!!!!
Whose fault is it….most I have seen enter the regionals are very smart, professional and dedicated so what is happening. Training and lack of experience...1500 hours proves nothing...but the regionals just want butts in seat...so your roll the dice and hope you make it! Best plan of action is to get a hold of someones flows, checklists before you ever apply at the regional of your choice and start studying the Aircraft systems...well before you apply at a regional….as the failure rates at some regionals would indicate you are just rolling the dice.
Best course of action is to be well prepared before you apply at any regional! They have a quota...i just want to be a professional pilot!!!!!!!!!
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Don’t worry you will have plenty of time during Basic Indoc and Systems to learn your flows. They will tell you exactly what to study and when. Besides they are still placing new hires on the 175 and 145. You don’t want to start learning one airplane then get assigned the other.
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My big concern is that regionals are getting lots of applicants and they are being accepted...but the experience level in many cases is not well suited to fly a jet when most candidates have been flying C-172s. But regionals are only concerned with putting butts in seats…. is what I believe...we hire 100 and pass 25 so we have met our quota. Regional should be required to publish there pass/fail rates and the FAA should enforce this...the carrier I was at had the FAA visiting to see why they had such a high failure rate...and think about it the FAA is approving regional training programs. So you have to ask why such a high failure rate in some cases? So now you have failed your FAA check ride and now have a BIG failure in your flight record ...who else will hire you now? Why did the regional released you ...cause its bad bussiness to have a pilot flying there jet with a failure..thanks to Colgan. You have now spent a small fortune and have shot yourself in the foot for future airline employment?
Whose fault is it….most I have seen enter the regionals are very smart, professional and dedicated so what is happening. Training and lack of experience...1500 hours proves nothing...but the regionals just want butts in seat...so your roll the dice and hope you make it! Best plan of action is to get a hold of someones flows, checklists before you ever apply at the regional of your choice and start studying the Aircraft systems...well before you apply at a regional….as the failure rates at some regionals would indicate you are just rolling the dice.
Best course of action is to be well prepared before you apply at any regional! They have a quota...i just want to be a professional pilot!!!!!!!!!
Whose fault is it….most I have seen enter the regionals are very smart, professional and dedicated so what is happening. Training and lack of experience...1500 hours proves nothing...but the regionals just want butts in seat...so your roll the dice and hope you make it! Best plan of action is to get a hold of someones flows, checklists before you ever apply at the regional of your choice and start studying the Aircraft systems...well before you apply at a regional….as the failure rates at some regionals would indicate you are just rolling the dice.
Best course of action is to be well prepared before you apply at any regional! They have a quota...i just want to be a professional pilot!!!!!!!!!
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Transitioned from flying GA to the 175 without a hitch. Still learning everyday and studying but it really is not hard if you apply yourself. I think you have posted some false/made-up numbers up there. I do not recommend taking this advice, you can learn the flows in training. Everyone in my group did, everyone passed. People who cannot memorize flows aren't struggling because they came from GA, they are struggling because they are lazy.
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