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MacrossJet 02-08-2020 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2973206)
Let me put it this way. United has made it very clear that they intend to shift the 145 to IAH and away from ORD and EWR. They want to increase the 550 presence in those bases.

XJT is a United puppet. The emails we get about the future are just them painting a rosy picture when in fact they only find out what is really going on a short time before we do. Trust me no one at XJT knows what we are doing.

All I am saying is that I believe that some bad news has been handed down to XJT management and that we will find out what it is before too long.

Why doesn't XJT replace their 145's, with 550?

Southern Fried 02-09-2020 02:17 AM

ALL of the pilots at XJT with enough longevity to know are disgruntled. For good reason. I applaud Alpa reps for calling out management for not negotiating in good faith to finish our contract. They broke their promise to us in letter 2.
There are many reasons for us to be disgruntled.

StuckOnReserve 02-09-2020 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by MacrossJet (Post 2973590)
Why doesn't XJT replace their 145's, with 550?


United makes that decision, not XJT. Right now the launch customer is GoJet. The 550 is an experiment and a band aid. United is using the 550 as a tool to get around scope clause limits in the mainline pilot contact. They would prefer to be flying 3 class 175’s but the UAX fleet is already maxed out on those. For now United is trying to see if premium class customer in the north east will accept that product on a regional jet.

The 145 is also a very profitable airframe for United and run 90% full most of the time. Right now XJT has about 65 of them on the line and UA has said they want to 30 more in service for westward expansion.

A few months ago Boeing directed Embraer to develop a new 50 seat RJ. When that comes out it will probably replace the 145.


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DownInPetaluma 02-09-2020 05:15 AM

How will they get 30 more 145s on line?

UnitedExpress 02-09-2020 06:13 AM

We have them parked

DownInPetaluma 02-09-2020 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by UnitedExpress (Post 2973670)
We have them parked

Somehow they need to magically come up with some extra folks, it seems..

Cessna182TypeR 02-09-2020 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma (Post 2973673)
Somehow they need to magically come up with some extra folks, it seems..

Yep, the list started to grow again for a few weeks only to start the big shrink again once the 20 new Emb-175’s were awarded to Mesa.

Shrinking and closing bases isn’t good for pilot recruitment. United/XJT needs to do something to get a handle on things to secure their feed.

watch 02-09-2020 06:59 AM

The NDA-limited poster has put their name and reputation on the line with the revelation that upcoming news is so bad that they are planning their exit from the company, and feels disloyal for not "spilling the beans" to the entire pilot group.

If nothing materializes, they will have lost credibility for "behind the scenes information". If something does materialize, I'll be surprised that it was not leaked. For now I maintain my belief that this is all standard rumor-mill / psychological warfare.

Melit 02-09-2020 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve (Post 2973626)
United makes that decision, not XJT. Right now the launch customer is GoJet. The 550 is an experiment and a band aid. United is using the 550 as a tool to get around scope clause limits in the mainline pilot contact. They would prefer to be flying 3 class 175’s but the UAX fleet is already maxed out on those. For now United is trying to see if premium class customer in the north east will accept that product on a regional jet.

The 145 is also a very profitable airframe for United and run 90% full most of the time. Right now XJT has about 65 of them on the line and UA has said they want to 30 more in service for westward expansion.

A few months ago Boeing directed Embraer to develop a new 50 seat RJ. When that comes out it will probably replace the 145.


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The 550 is no longer an experiment, it’s working. So Boeing is telling Embraer to develop a new 50 seater? How do you know XJET is gonna get an airplane that isn’t even developed yet? Where do you guys come up with this stuff??

StuckOnReserve 02-09-2020 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2973722)
The 550 is no longer an experiment, it’s working. So Boeing is telling Embraer to develop a new 50 seater? How do you know XJET is gonna get an airplane that isn’t even developed yet? Where do you guys come up with this stuff??



Umm it’s still an experiment. Delivery only started in the fall and the United doesn’t have a full fiscal year of financial performance on it.

I also never said that XJT would get the new Embraer. I said it would be a replacement for the 145 as in an industry replacement for the 145. Akin to how the 737 and MD80/90’s replaced the 727.

Did you not have to study reading comprehension as a kid?


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