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Melit 02-10-2020 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve (Post 2973921)
I don’t think they were “ours”. We just expected to get them.




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Are you going to point me in the right direction where Boeing is telling Embraer what to do? Or did you make that up? Is okay if you did

SeeYa 02-10-2020 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by HighWingingIt (Post 2974188)
As far as I know those 19 remaining 175’s still have yet to be assigned to someone

that’s my understanding as well. Also, not even sure if they are guaranteed orders either. If United does decide to pull
the trigger I’d say their is a chance XJT could get them but hell I wouldn’t count on it. Scope is also
an issue too, they’d have to replace 19 70 seaters somehow

Cessna182TypeR 02-10-2020 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 2974204)
What’s interesting when I talk to DAL pilots and my friends that are at DAL they are jealous of how many wide body jets at UA. UA has more top paying jobs then DAL, profit sharing isn’t a sure thing.

My last trip talking with a DAL crew about progression. I told them I had 16 years left at UA and I will retire as an equivalent as a 767 CA. The new hire FO (same age) will write as a NB CA.

it’s all perspective

Yep and that $50k in the bank now compounded will easily overcome the extra pay you’ll make for a few years as a 767 CA. Not everyone cares about flying a wide body plane internationally.

Again, perspective.

3400 02-10-2020 08:07 AM

Don’t underestimate the impact that an airline’s size has on recruiting. A lot of new hires view size and stability as one in the same, and bigger airlines, particularly OO YX MQ OH 9E and even YV are pretty well staffed. More airplanes, bases, and partners are a big sell to new hires.

The smaller airlines seem to have more trouble hiring. Tool over to the Piedmont forum, you’ll see the pilot group has shrunk and recruiting can’t keep up with attrition, even with the flow carrot. There’s whisperings that a Piedmont-Envoy merge may happen someday.

I agree that both EV and C5 have pieces that the other needs, and if they can both add more bases and appear more stable with a merge, it might be worthwhile.

Cessna182TypeR 02-10-2020 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 2974261)
Don’t underestimate the impact that an airline’s size has on recruiting. A lot of new hires view size and stability as one in the same, and bigger airlines, particularly OO YX MQ OH 9E and even YV are pretty well staffed. More airplanes, bases, and partners are a big sell to new hires.

The smaller airlines seem to have more trouble hiring. Tool over to the Piedmont forum, you’ll see the pilot group has shrunk and recruiting can’t keep up with attrition, even with the flow carrot. There’s whisperings that a Piedmont-Envoy merge may happen someday.

I agree that both EV and C5 have pieces that the other needs, and if they can both add more bases and appear more stable with a merge, it might be worthwhile.

^*^^What he/she said.

flynd94 02-10-2020 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR (Post 2974260)
Yep and that $50k in the bank now compounded will easily overcome the extra pay you’ll make for a few years as a 767 CA. Not everyone cares about flying a wide body plane internationally.

Again, perspective.

You are new to the industry, profit sharing is relatively new. It’s based on certain benchmarks being met. As quick as it’s shown up it can go away.

I will take higher paying WB seats, 16% DC and better career progression over a PS that can disappear.

What are you doing to get out of evil Xjet/UAX system? Head over the other forums. The grass isn’t always greener. AA wholly owned are claiming about subpar pay. EDV pilots complain about the low pass rate on their program.

Cessna182TypeR 02-10-2020 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 2974274)
You are new to the industry, profit sharing is relatively new. It’s based on certain benchmarks being met. As quick as it’s shown up it can go away.

I will take higher paying WB seats, 16% DC and better career progression over a PS that can disappear.

You are pretty bitter. What are you doing to get out of evil Xjet/UAX system? Head over the other forums. The grass isn’t always greener. AA wholly owned are claiming about subpar pay. EDV pilots complain about the low pass rate on their program.

Not bitter, we just have different perspectives. That’s very common on forums.

I’m gaining hours and experience to go to an LCC or even Envoy / Endeavor if EWR closes or shrinks small enough.

Endeavor may not have flow but they at least have great pay and contract. Envoy has a flow and their pay is better than ours. No EQO over there, just straight pay.

XJT is far from bad or evil but also not very competitive in the current market. The shrinking airline and very small new hire classes bear that out. Just think United could do more to make this airline attractive. Closing bases and fighting all three work groups isn’t helping anything.

Why do you still post here incessantly after leaving? Haven’t you moved on?

ReadOnly7 02-10-2020 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR (Post 2974260)
Yep and that $50k in the bank now compounded will easily overcome the extra pay you’ll make for a few years as a 767 CA. Not everyone cares about flying a wide body plane internationally.

Again, perspective.

I guess UAL did you a solid by not hiring you?

I totally understand how people are bitter when they aren’t selected.....but to then act like United sucks is pretty disingenuous. You clearly wanted to work there at one point.

falconkidding 02-10-2020 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 2974556)
I guess UAL did you a solid by not hiring you?

I totally understand how people are bitter when they aren’t selected.....but to then act like United sucks is pretty disingenuous. You clearly wanted to work there at one point.

You can think yo nited sucks and still want to work there. Like someone told me I'll bandage my wounds with 100$ bills and tough it out lol. I can think AA is a mess and dont care for deltas culture but I'd still work there in a heartbeat.

airlinepilot50 02-11-2020 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 2974274)
You are new to the industry, profit sharing is relatively new. It’s based on certain benchmarks being met. As quick as it’s shown up it can go away.

I will take higher paying WB seats, 16% DC and better career progression over a PS that can disappear.

You are pretty bitter. What are you doing to get out of evil Xjet/UAX system? Head over the other forums. The grass isn’t always greener. AA wholly owned are claiming about subpar pay. EDV pilots complain about the low pass rate on their program.

How many years of life expectancy do you lose as a WB pilot?


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