Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)

- ExpressJet (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/expressjet/)

- - 175's are done (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/expressjet/127632-175s-done.html)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2982547)

This makes absolutely no sense.

Why go through all the costs of delivery/training associated with the 175 just to dump it?

(If those 175s wind up at SKYW, Imma throw things.)

Well you better get to throwin ‘ cuz that’s where they are going

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirkDiggler (Post 2982533)

2019 was an incredible year of transformation and growth at ExpressJet, and 2020 will be no exception. Today we announced we are finalizing a multi-year extension of our Capacity Purchase Agreement (CPA) with United. Additionally, we will be acquiring 36 ERJ145s over the next 12 months that are currently being operated by another airline. This will make us the world’s largest operator of ERJ145 aircraft.

All of this is being driven by United’s decision to make a long-term commitment to the ERJ145 with a multi-million-dollar investment in refreshing the interiors of our ERJ145 aircraft – seats, lights, even adding personal device entertainment. This will create an improved and contemporary passenger experience on the refreshed ERJ145s. All of this points to a long-term commitment from our partner United and indicates they are confident in our ability to grow our fleet and be successful for the long-term. United is committed to the ERJ145 fleet type, and the extension and investment in the customer and employee experience speaks volumes to the importance of our flying in their network.

An additional component of this agreement involves United transitioning our E175 aircraft off of our certificate and transferring them to another United Express carrier. We are incredibly grateful to the entire team for your work making our E175 program such a success this past year. Together we accomplished amazing things! As a regional carrier, we must stay relevant to our mainline partner by providing them the product that is most applicable to the needs of their network. United is confident in our ability to grow our ERJ145 operation to become United’s largest operator of 50 seat aircraft, allowing for simplification and a more reliable, efficient operation. We will also be able to expand our flying footprint, which includes adding additional destinations and bases, starting with Denver later this year.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me or any of your leaders.

Fly safely,

Subodh

Staying committed to a pos like the -145 and the rj200 will be the slow death of United. Pax hate these pos planes . Agreeing to fly these things for another ten years is absolutely insane .
Ten more years of ****ed off pax, delays ,cx due maintenance, standing in the cold and rain in Dulles waiting 15 minutes on your bag . Ten more years of that —— way to go united . I’m sure the folks at delta are still laughing .

Quote:

Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 2983350)

well that’s why they’re trying out the 550. Also, they’re ultimately pretty limited on what they can do due to scope

Quote:

Originally Posted by black cat (Post 2983326)

Going somewhere solely to fly a certain fleet type is idiotic.

Historically, this was obvious. You went where the flying was whether in a B-1900 or EMB-120. This generation and subsequent, are different.

Personally, I learned more in that first couple years in a turboprop than in anything with VNAV and LPV. You can’t buy that kind of experience now, and I’m immensely grateful for it. YMMV.

Quote:

Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 2983350)

At this point it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they didn’t have the idea of buying up every CRJ700 they can find on the planet to convert to 550s then leaving a single 145 carrier like XJT to provide 50 seat lift in markets they feel won’t complain much as long as they still get service. I think this whole decision is a reaction to United finally seeing that it’ll be a cold day in hell before pilots give in on scope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rotor2prop (Post 2983450)

At this point in the game, pilots don't have a reason to bend on scope. Airline biz is riding high right now, but history has shown there will be an eventual downturn. Once that bubble shrinks or breaks, then scope becomes a much more heated topic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vortacmeatsac (Post 2983488)

United is probably planning this new deal will hold them over until the economy dives and they get the scope leverage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rotor2prop (Post 2983603)

United is probably planning this new deal will hold them over until the economy dives and they get the scope leverage.

exactly. Mgmt is willing to play the long game.

Honest question: how long can they afford to play these games? The pilot group was once 4500. It is now 1400 and dropping.

Exactly what I’m thinking. Obviously, some agreements have been made. I just fail they think to realize that something needs to be done now, not in October.