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Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2982547)

This makes absolutely no sense.

Why go through all the costs of delivery/training associated with the 175 just to dump it?

(If those 175s wind up at SKYW, Imma throw things.)

Better start throwing things!

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Originally Posted by stang (Post 2982948)

I just dont understand why they would dump the 175 program where UA has interest in XJT but not in OO.

1. United probably has a negative outlook of scope relaxation. That is, no more 175s and a fleet of only 25 is too small.

2. We can’t train enough pilots quickly enough to have accepted the planes that ended up going to MESA. Not without removing 145s from service, which United needs and would have then become a small fleet at XJT.

3. Apparently TSA was in dire straights and we’re rescuing the flying for UA.

What I don’t get is the lack of planning for the TSA pilot group. I guess the hope is they just move over to gojets?

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Originally Posted by KCaviator (Post 2982960)

Can you imagine having gone to XJT to fly the 175? Lmaoooo 🤣🤣

Republic lost that flying a second time. I wouldn’t be laughing if I were you.

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Originally Posted by da42pilot (Post 2982965)

Republic lost that flying a second time. I wouldn’t be laughing if I were you.

Actually YX didn’t lose any flying.

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Originally Posted by KCaviator (Post 2982968)

Actually YX didn’t lose any flying.

Thats not what I said.

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Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma (Post 2982745)

planned all along?

Why would they bother spending all the spool up costs at XJT if it was planned all along? Just sounds more like a reaction to TSA s*itting the best with regards to their staffing or lack of staffing.

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Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 2982779)

it was a ploy to get the pilot group to sign a bad contract

I would say ploy is too nice a word

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Originally Posted by da42pilot (Post 2982970)

Thats not what I said.

Yes you did.

Here’s your quote.

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Originally Posted by da42pilot (Post 2982965)

Republic lost that flying a second time. I wouldn’t be laughing if I were you.

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Originally Posted by da42pilot (Post 2982964)

TSA has been p**sing off UAL ever since they agreed to take the XRs which is why we never got Aviate. The handwriting has been on the wall for this for a while. TSA management is a cluster and couldn't manage their way out of a paper bag. Ever since the only guy in management with a clue, KS, left for PSA the place has been crashing downhill. Because of this, there will be very few, if any TSA guys going to Gojet. We all want to get out of here. Conference call today was a joke and they had no real answers. Union sources are telling us negotiations are underway for a soft landing for TSA guys that want to go to Expressjet. Supposedly UAL is really pushing this to help crew the XRs. We're being told the bulk of the flying will be transferred after August with a few planes leaving by May, then a pause in transfers until fall.

Rumor I heard was they are working on a package for people to stay until the planes leave and then got to Expressjet. UAL needs to keep the planes flying all summer and without significant financial incentives and some kind of assurance of a job, people aren't going to wait and this will be a ghost town soon. I don't see Expressjet getting all these aircraft transferred over the next year without some of the TSA guys going with them. I expect most of the TSA guys to go to LCCs, some to other regionals and very, very few to Gojet. Mostly the old timers who don't have a lot of time left and don't want to leave St Louis.

We'll see what happens but this is gonna be another TSA cluster until the planes get transferred.