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tonsterboy5 07-21-2020 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3096287)
there is NO requirement to pull any 70/76 seaters. The only requirement affecting that fleet is to pull 6 seats from the 76 seaters if furloughs are going deeper at UA.

The only cap relative to mainline flying is on total UAX hulls. So they can pull either 50 seater or 70/76 seater.

my money is on UA keeping the large RJs

after 153 76/70 seaters the number is tied to to NB planes. That is why they will have to pull.

amcnd 07-21-2020 07:49 AM

All i heard is the problem is solved by pulling 6 seats out of the 76 seat Jets, and parking 50 seaters...( except prorate 50 seaters)....

TFAYD 07-21-2020 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by tonsterboy5 (Post 3096294)
after 153 76/70 seaters the number is tied to to NB planes. That is why they will have to pull.

No - google United pilot agreement, read

1-C-1-a-(2) and report back

sigler 07-21-2020 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3096304)
No - google United pilot agreement, read

1-C-1-a-(2) and report back

Did you read 1-C-1-f and g?

TFAYD 07-21-2020 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by sigler (Post 3096310)
Did you read 1-C-1-f and g?


That is mostly in relation to a NEW small NB aircraft, ie E195 or A220

the limitation in 1-C-1-f is likely not gonna matter as 76 seat block hours can be 120% of NB block hours.

sigler 07-21-2020 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3096314)
That is mostly in relation to a NEW small NB aircraft, ie E195 or A220

the limitation in 1-C-1-f is likely not gonna matter as 76 seat block hours can be 120% of NB block hours.

You seem to know a lot more about scope than me, so I’ll take your word for it. I still don’t see all 50-seaters going away, question is who will fly them.

amcnd 07-21-2020 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by sigler (Post 3096494)
You seem to know a lot more about scope than me, so I’ll take your word for it. I still don’t see all 50-seaters going away, question is who will fly them.


i see most “CPA” 50 seaters going away.... Prorate 50 seaters will grow..

rickair7777 07-21-2020 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 3096497)
i see most “CPA” 50 seaters going away.... Prorate 50 seaters will grow..

Could be.

Not under scope, but it expands the mainline brand, service fotprint, and some revenue. Kind of a win-win.

TFAYD 07-21-2020 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3096517)
Could be.

Not under scope, but it expands the mainline brand, service fotprint, and some revenue. Kind of a win-win.

all UAX flying falls under scope - EAS/pro-rate or not doesn’t matter. As long as it is marketed under UAX it is subject to scope.

amcnd 07-21-2020 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3096521)
all UAX flying falls under scope - EAS/pro-rate or not doesn’t matter. As long as it is marketed under UAX it is subject to scope.

thats the point. Its not. Prorate they do there own marketing... the city's provide marketing capital, adds billboards ect...and “x” amount of funds to guarantee service...


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