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Old 08-21-2020 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
ALPA did right for the compass pilot group. It also sent a message to Breeze.
ALPA can ask other airlines to strongly consider hiring pilots from a failed airline, and many carriers have hired those people in the past, but ALPA doesn’t have the ability to make any demands. Breeze isn’t a union carrier. Since it is a start up they can hire who they want and dictate the terms of employment. After they get going the pilots can vote in a union and get started negotiating their first contract, but until then ALPA has no say in anything that Breeze does.
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Old 08-21-2020 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
No it can't.
Actually, it can. It depends how your successorship language is worded. Some define it as transfer of significant assets. Certificate very much is that. And the seller cant sell it if they are bound by that contract.
Compass was a staffing company, they didnt own their planes. Their company pretty much was the certificate.
TSH screwed CPZ pilots over, bad. I'm glad to see ALPA didnt let them get away with it.
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Old 08-21-2020 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
ALPA did right for the compass pilot group. It also sent a message to Breeze.

Agreed. Its a step I the right direction for sure.
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Old 08-21-2020 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
ALPA can ask other airlines to strongly consider hiring pilots from a failed airline, and many carriers have hired those people in the past, but ALPA doesn’t have the ability to make any demands. Breeze isn’t a union carrier. Since it is a start up they can hire who they want and dictate the terms of employment. After they get going the pilots can vote in a union and get started negotiating their first contract, but until then ALPA has no say in anything that Breeze does.

ALPA was/is trying to force the hand of the Department of Transportation hoping that the DOT would force Breeze to recognize the pilot contract of the airline who’s certificate Breeze was trying obtain. This is a more political process than a legal one. Clearly Breeze was concerned enough to abandon the effort to acquire the Compass certificate.
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Old 08-21-2020 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
No it can't.
I’m so confused about what an argument is right now
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