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Old 03-08-2008 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Once again, the rumors of XJT's death have been greatly exaggerated.

To be honest, I wish I had started a side business 6-12 months ago or that I was independently weatlhy so that I could take advantage of this time off to travel the world or grow my business with the company still paying for my benefits. Oh well...I still need the paycheck so I guess I'm missing the boat on this one.
You only live once. If I was offered a few months off with travel bennies, I'd be gone faster than you can read this. I'd even load up the plastic if needed. I regret not doing that when I had the chance.
Old 03-08-2008 | 06:33 PM
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Jet jock: read your FARS, within 90 days no training is required... wait isn't that 3 months...
Read my posting!

Where exactly does the FARS talk about being furloughed and returning? It's basically like being fired and rehired and when you are, does your currency go out the door seeing it’s a training issue and not a currency issue. I’ve never been furloughed and, unless they were at another airline, no one has been furloughed at SKW seeing SKW has NEVER FURLOUGHED!

Once again this is NOT a question about currency! Sorry I don't have my 121 reg on me at all times and if there is a section regarding furloughed pilots then I must have missed that part!

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Old 03-08-2008 | 06:47 PM
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Reread my post, I never called a single pilot an ass, but I have first hand knowledge that a certain RJ operators CEO specifically referenced XJT when talking about pay increases and QOL increases for a new contract, telling their pilots to "beware" if they demand such luxuries, they would be in the same boat as XJT in the future. Pilots are a jumpy bunch when it comes to rumors of furloughs, hence some less experienced groups are easily scared.

I also never implied that SKYW ever furloughed. Jetjock, I simply was referencing your inquiry when you proposed some sort of training requirement if a furlough took place. Furlough, COLA, doesn't matter, as long as the pilot passed the SIC course, and was current up until their COLA, Furlough, or Leave of Absence due to MIL, FMLA, or just Educational Leave, as long as they don't go 90 days without landings, they are current and qualified to jump back into their seat and fly. You asked the question, I simply was giving you the least wordy answer, but since you took offense I wonder if you actually were asking a question, or trying to portend a dim future for XJT via rhetorical questions.

Money will be tight, they are simply being creative to save some money. I'm sure on Monday you will see XJT post a considerable loss.
Old 03-08-2008 | 07:15 PM
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well, I couldnt resist from opining on this subject. While I hope XJT does well and that the pilot group comes though $106.00/barel oil, this can't be good news for the airline or for anyone wanting to get hired by the company. They havent had a class date (new hire) since November and they are not anticipating any untill June (maybe). Now they are giving people time off, yikes! Does not sound good from the outside looking in, thats all I'm saying.

You XJT guys seem to be taking it in stride, as you should, but as I interviewed there in Dec. I'm glad I made the choice not to go there no matter a good the contract is. Good Luck guys, without a drastic change in oil prices soon, all regionals will be in it, but XJT is particularliary volnerable becuase of the branded flying.
Old 03-08-2008 | 07:16 PM
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To answer your question, JJ, I think re-training is required after furlough recall. Although, I'm not sure of that. It has nothing to do with currency, it's more like a dequal.
Old 03-08-2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
I’ve never been furloughed and, unless they were at another airline, no one has been furloughed at SKW seeing SKW has NEVER FURLOUGHED!

off subject but this statement is not entirely true. right after 9/11 several guys from our flight school that were hired at skywest and actually finished their checkrides were sent back home and were told that they would be called when they could come back. i remember that very well because our school let them come back and instruct, taking a few of my students from me!!!
Old 03-08-2008 | 09:28 PM
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Buddy of mine at Mesaba is taking 1 month off in April. He said the company has been offering this for months. Seems like that is COLA to me, yet those guys aren't freakin' out. Our company is being smart and doing something that is a win-win for everyone, exactly like Mesaba has been doing
Old 03-09-2008 | 04:11 AM
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Despite the Doom & gloom some have on the COLA's, I just finished the installation of my Turbo Honda S2000, Holy Bologna the car moves
Old 03-09-2008 | 04:37 AM
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I have a funny feeling that if it were RAH doing this, many on these boards (especially XJTers) would be all over the "possible demise of Chautauqua."
Old 03-09-2008 | 06:28 AM
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XJT's contract dictates what training is required after a leave of absence. It is the same for all types of leaves. If gone for less than 90 days it is one trip to the box to get any required landings, over 90 days is a few ground sessions and a couple of trips to the box. The company offered leaves are for a maximum of 91 days.
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