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Old 03-09-2008 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tpersuit
Didn't answer my question. Why aren't people freaking out over Mesaba doing this?
I, for one, was unaware that Mesaba was in the same situation.
It seems like RAH, XJT, and SKW pilots make up the bulk of the "usuals" in the regional forum and we have to wait less time to hear about those three airlines than for news of any other carrier. If I'm on a trip I generally stay away from the internet and thus don't really hear ANYTHING about any company unless somebody calls me to tell me.
Old 03-09-2008 | 11:28 AM
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I know my favorite one involves a pool and days of laughing!
Me too!!
...how many freakin' exclamations points do I need to make it to ten characters?
Old 03-09-2008 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
How the hell should I know or care? To each his own.
Fine, skirt around it.

While we're at it. At XJT, 1st year, we get 4% match for our 401K plus an additional 2.5% contribution from the company. So for a 1st year FO, we get 6.5% contribution from the company for putting in 4%. Do you guys have that additional contribution amount? For a 18-year employee here, we get 6% match plus a 6% contribution from the company. That equals 12% contribution from the company for only putting in 6% = total of 18%! What does RAH give you?
That is also an expense I'm sure CAL wanted to get away from.
Old 03-09-2008 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
You sure seem to care an awful lot about the COLA at XJT... There are some guys here who are probably jumping for joy. I'm kinda like "meh...whatever...wish the girlfriend got offered a month off so we could go travel...oh well. Back to my USA Today."
It involves my industry and everything has a ripple effect. I doubt there are people who love not having a job and before someone says "they still have a job" if you aren't getting paid then don't have a job. All I'm saying is it is a big deal. Some may like it, some may hate it, some may be scared of it, some just see it as a strategic play but for whatever it is it's a big deal.
Old 03-09-2008 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by POPA
I, for one, was unaware that Mesaba was in the same situation.
It seems like RAH, XJT, and SKW pilots make up the bulk of the "usuals" in the regional forum and we have to wait less time to hear about those three airlines than for news of any other carrier.
Look at the size of the Mesaba thread.
Old 03-09-2008 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tpersuit
Do you know why RAH got XJT flying? It is because they have a cheaper operation. How much do your FO's get paid over there? How much do their FO's get paid on the 170? We have a more costly contract than RAH does, don't tell us they didn't cost CAL less.

Why don't you compare a 5-year 170 FO at RAH to a 5 year DC-9 FO at NW.
I had a long post to respond to this but gave up when I realized that a new hires opinion about my company that they don't even work at means...nothing...
Old 03-09-2008 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkyBN584
I had a long post to respond to this but gave up when I realized that a new hires opinion about my company that they don't even work at means...nothing...
You gave up because your post would've made absolutely no sense in defending the pay at RAH.
Old 03-09-2008 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tpersuit
What does RAH give you?
A job. That beats 18%.
Old 03-09-2008 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
A job. That beats 18%.
At least we now know your true feelings. Why don't we at XJT reduce our pay 1% below yours and get rid of all these nice extra benefits that we have and then steal your flying.

You still didn't answer my question. What does RAH give you for your 401K?
Old 03-09-2008 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tpersuit
You gave up because your post would've made absolutely no sense in defending the pay at RAH.
No, it would have gone over your head, junior.
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