Expressjet Runway Overshoot
03-18-2011 | 09:34 AM
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Expressjet Runway Overshoot
Glad everyone is ok. Hopefully they get to keep their jobs...
Plane veers off runway at Akron-Canton Airport - Yahoo! News
Plane veers off runway at Akron-Canton Airport - Yahoo! News
03-18-2011 | 10:30 AM
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Glad everyone is ok. Hopefully they get to keep their jobs...
Plane veers off runway at Akron-Canton Airport - Yahoo! News
Plane veers off runway at Akron-Canton Airport - Yahoo! News
03-19-2011 | 04:50 AM
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That's also the word I'm hearing around the field, saw some ntsb jackets walking around when I got off this morning...
03-19-2011 | 06:27 AM
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Also the FAA usually busts people for sterile cockpit in situations like this...sterile violations are consider willfull so no asap help there. Of course it's theoretically possible they were in 100% compliance with sterile...
03-19-2011 | 06:46 AM
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Sole source part of ASAP might be an issue? Not saying it would not be accepted because of this but many cases must be a sole source to be accepted......
03-19-2011 | 07:06 AM
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Example: A pilot busts an altitude. He files asap and also ATC files a deviation.
The FAA pursues enforcement action. ASAP report keeps you from getting ticket yanked and you get remedial training instead (or Administrative letter, etc.)
Acceptance criteria for ASAP:
1. Inadvertent
2. No criminal activity, drugs or alcohol
3. Submitted in a timely manner...generally 24hrs
03-19-2011 | 09:15 AM
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Holy ASAP ignorance Batman!
As mentioned above, if the ASAP is submitted in a timely fashion (24 hours from the closing of the day), and there was not any willful noncompliance, the crew will be protected. It is the agreement we maintain with the FAA regarding certificate action and retraining; and it's the agreement we maintain with the company via our MOU for punitive action (please see unionized carriers with ASAP programs).
As mentioned above, if the ASAP is submitted in a timely fashion (24 hours from the closing of the day), and there was not any willful noncompliance, the crew will be protected. It is the agreement we maintain with the FAA regarding certificate action and retraining; and it's the agreement we maintain with the company via our MOU for punitive action (please see unionized carriers with ASAP programs).
03-19-2011 | 01:56 PM
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Also the FAA usually busts people for sterile cockpit in situations like this...sterile violations are consider willfull so no asap help there. Of course it's theoretically possible they were in 100% compliance with sterile...
Also, Sully didnt get busted for violating the sterile cockpit regulation. Just saying...
Sole source part of ASAP might be an issue? Not saying it would not be accepted because of this but many cases must be a sole source to be accepted......
Holy ASAP ignorance Batman!
As mentioned above, if the ASAP is submitted in a timely fashion (24 hours from the closing of the day), and there was not any willful noncompliance, the crew will be protected. It is the agreement we maintain with the FAA regarding certificate action and retraining; and it's the agreement we maintain with the company via our MOU for punitive action (please see unionized carriers with ASAP programs).
As mentioned above, if the ASAP is submitted in a timely fashion (24 hours from the closing of the day), and there was not any willful noncompliance, the crew will be protected. It is the agreement we maintain with the FAA regarding certificate action and retraining; and it's the agreement we maintain with the company via our MOU for punitive action (please see unionized carriers with ASAP programs).
03-19-2011 | 03:15 PM
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Sully dead-sticked an Airbus with a dual engine failure into the Hudson without loss of life. Expressjet skidded off a runway. I don't think the FAA would extend the same courtesy to this crew. Glad everyone made it out ok.
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