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Old 11-22-2013 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Just vindicating why I DO NOT EXCEPT PSA or Endevor on my JS and never will. My family thanks you guys!

Merry Christmas
Do u EXCEPT expressjet pilots on ur jumpseat after they voted in concessions a few years ago?
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Old 11-22-2013 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
The entire regional fleet is only going to be half of what it is now because the 50 seat replacement flying is 2 for 1. Combine that with the loss of secondary hubs, there is going to be a lot less flying at the regional level. That will make up for most of the "shortage".
Since we know that our fleet will be reduced in the long run, why should we take concessions now for the inevitable?

I wanted to make my decision only after seeing it and I haven't seen anything in this contract that prompts me to say that I will vote "yes" to this. So, add another "NO" vote from the ASA side.
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Old 11-22-2013 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
I sat st the airport for 11 hours trying to get out of DCA. LGA was shut down and I was pay protected for my 4 legs that day. Under the new rules, I would have gotten 3.82 (which really should have gone up to 4 or 4.5, but that's a different argument). I also recently got to RDU early enough to make it back to ATL on an earlier flight that was open when my deadhead was oversold. I was approved for the alternate deadhead, which was better for me, the company and Delta, but under the new rules I would have lost the pay for the last leg. That, among other things, is unacceptable.
Cancellation pay still looks like it's 100%.
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Old 11-22-2013 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
Do u EXCEPT expressjet pilots on ur jumpseat after they voted in concessions a few years ago?
I don't agree with XJT Pilot but I have to say that their concessions still exceeded whatever you guys had or still have in the regional contract that you worked for.

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Old 11-22-2013 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ross9238
I don't agree with XJT Pilot but I have to say that their concessions still exceeded whatever you guys had or still have in the regional contract that you worked for.
Ironically, there is only one pilot group that has never voted in concessions ....ASA. XJT, Comair, Eagle, Air Wisc., PSA, Pinnacle, Mesaba/PNCL, Mesa, Horizon all have. Well actually I guess GoJets and Compass haven't either, but they already have the lowest cost.
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Old 11-22-2013 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ross9238
Since we know that our fleet will be reduced in the long run, why should we take concessions now for the inevitable?

I wanted to make my decision only after seeing it and I haven't seen anything in this contract that prompts me to say that I will vote "yes" to this. So, add another "NO" vote from the ASA side.
The 50s are out the door one way or the other...No argument there. The question is whether or not we get any of the replacement larger RJs.
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Old 11-22-2013 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
Um. Well this is awkward.
I thought I had put all of the sarcastic words in italics but it looks like I forgot one. ops... your right
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Old 11-22-2013 | 07:30 AM
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LASA 2010 hire date. I'm a No vote to anything that doesn't pay me for my time. I deserve to be paid from the time I clock in to the time I clock out. I'll vote no to anything for the rest of my life that doesn't do this.

I'm excited that I finally get to voice my concerns with a No vote.
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Old 11-22-2013 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NoHandHold
Yea I read that.

So I'm right in thinking this is a change from what we have? I'm triple checking everything and verifying.
Originally Posted by skigambia
How would you only get 3.82?
I missed the cancellation pay comment, so maybe not.
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Old 11-22-2013 | 07:58 AM
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You guys know that FAR 117 pretty much takes care of these things already.

Originally Posted by NoHandHold
So far...

-Ready reserve goes to 6.5 hours instead of 8...credit pay remains 4.

-No more call for release for reserves....checking skedplus suffices.

-No more standby for an hour for reserves...or any period of time.

*Mind you this was a quick skim, please correct anything you see wrong
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