Expressjet 2013/2014 Contract
11-22-2013, 10:25 AM
#191
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: B737 FO
Posts: 695
Can we get a list going of the big changes and maybe post it on the first page of the topic? These aren't in any order and I've tried to copy in the contract language where possible so people can see for themselves what it says.
Please correct any mistakes and add any other cons or pros to this list...
Pros:
1) Slight, slight bump in pay scale for ASA side
2) Slight improvement in 401(k) but if my math is correct 100% of 6% and 75% of 8% are the same thing...
vs. Old
3) Sick time
4) Per Diem
5) RSV no more call for release or 'stand-by for 30 minutes'
AND
6) Vacation accrual improved, now 28 days at 10 YOS instead of 15 YOS
7) No more than 2 Ready Rsv assignments in a row (correct me if I'm wrong on this)
8) Ready Rsv is now 6 hours for 4.5 hours of pay
Cons:
1) Loss of DHD pay at end of a trip for alternate DHD
2) Vacation Low from 75 to 65 hours & no more carry over vacation low
3) Bid package release date
4) MMG hit based on personal credit threshold
5) RSV pilot notification (honestly I'm not sure if this is different than the current contract but I think so).
6) Loss of Duty-Rigs (except for CDOs)
Please correct any mistakes and add any other cons or pros to this list...
Pros:
1) Slight, slight bump in pay scale for ASA side
2) Slight improvement in 401(k) but if my math is correct 100% of 6% and 75% of 8% are the same thing...
3. The Company will match the pilot‘s contributions each paycheck as
follows:
Completed years of active service Company match
<5 100% up to 2%
5<10 100% up to 5%
10+ 100% up to 6%
follows:
Completed years of active service Company match
<5 100% up to 2%
5<10 100% up to 5%
10+ 100% up to 6%
1 YOS=20% of first 6%
2 YOS=30% of first 6%
3 YOS=40% of first 6%
4,5,6 YOS=50% of first 6%
7 YOS=75% of first 6%
10+YOS=75% of first 8%
2 YOS=30% of first 6%
3 YOS=40% of first 6%
4,5,6 YOS=50% of first 6%
7 YOS=75% of first 6%
10+YOS=75% of first 8%
A. Accrual
1. A pilot will be credited with the following amount of sick leave each
month based on the number of hours paid for the previous month.
Hours Paid Accrual Per Month
75 or more 5.0
Less than 75 3.5
2. The maximum sick leave accrual will be 640 hours.
1. A pilot will be credited with the following amount of sick leave each
month based on the number of hours paid for the previous month.
Hours Paid Accrual Per Month
75 or more 5.0
Less than 75 3.5
2. The maximum sick leave accrual will be 640 hours.
4) Per Diem
1. Line Operation
A pilot will receive the per diem amounts listed below for each trip
hour. Per diem will be calculated from the time the pilot reports for
duty at his domicile until he is released from duty at his domicile and
will be prorated for portions of an hour.
Effective January 1, 2014 $1.75
Effective October 1, 2015 $1.80
A pilot will receive the per diem amounts listed below for each trip
hour. Per diem will be calculated from the time the pilot reports for
duty at his domicile until he is released from duty at his domicile and
will be prorated for portions of an hour.
Effective January 1, 2014 $1.75
Effective October 1, 2015 $1.80
i. Reserve Pairing Debrief
(1) At the end of the debrief of a pairing a reserve pilot must:
(a) Contact Crew Scheduling; or
(b) Check SkedPlus+.
(4) If there are no new assignments in SkedPlus+ by the
end of the debrief of his pairing, he will be released to
domicile rest or days off.
(1) At the end of the debrief of a pairing a reserve pilot must:
(a) Contact Crew Scheduling; or
(b) Check SkedPlus+.
(4) If there are no new assignments in SkedPlus+ by the
end of the debrief of his pairing, he will be released to
domicile rest or days off.
EXAMPLE: Fifteen minutes after finishing his trip, a reserve
pilot contacts Crew Scheduling to be released.
Crew Scheduling tells the pilot to call back in 30
minutes for a possible assignment. This is incorrect
as Crew Scheduling must do one of the options in
paragraph [i.(2)], above at the time of contact
pilot contacts Crew Scheduling to be released.
Crew Scheduling tells the pilot to call back in 30
minutes for a possible assignment. This is incorrect
as Crew Scheduling must do one of the options in
paragraph [i.(2)], above at the time of contact
7) No more than 2 Ready Rsv assignments in a row (correct me if I'm wrong on this)
6. Airport Standby Reserve
b. A reserve pilot will not report for airport standby more than 2
consecutive days without his consent. A reserve pilot will not
report for airport standby more than 6 times in a bid period
without his consent.
b. A reserve pilot will not report for airport standby more than 2
consecutive days without his consent. A reserve pilot will not
report for airport standby more than 6 times in a bid period
without his consent.
i. Airport Standby Duration
(1) Except as provided in paragraph [i.(2)], below, airport
standby will be 6 hours and will be paid 4.5 hours.
(2) A reserve pilot assigned airport standby after completion
of an assignment as provided by paragraph [i.2.(b)],
above, will be assigned an airport standby period of no
less than 1 hour and no more than 6 hours. This airport
standby will pay a one-for-one credit up to 4.5 hours.
(1) Except as provided in paragraph [i.(2)], below, airport
standby will be 6 hours and will be paid 4.5 hours.
(2) A reserve pilot assigned airport standby after completion
of an assignment as provided by paragraph [i.2.(b)],
above, will be assigned an airport standby period of no
less than 1 hour and no more than 6 hours. This airport
standby will pay a one-for-one credit up to 4.5 hours.
1) Loss of DHD pay at end of a trip for alternate DHD
2. Deadhead options at the end of a trip
a. Regular Pilots
(1) When a pilot’s trip is scheduled to terminate with a
deadhead to his domicile, he may, in coordination with
Crew Scheduling, terminate his trip at that outstation
airport.
(2) Pilot requests to Crew Scheduling in paragraph 3.a.,
above will be approved unless Crew Scheduling has an
additional flight assignment that same day that is
assigned to the pilot within fifteen (15) minutes after
block-in of his last leg prior to the original scheduled
deadhead.
3. Compensation
a. A pilot released from a deadhead as provided by paragraphs C.1,
or C.2.b., above, will be paid for the originally scheduled deadhead segment of his trip.
b. A pilot released from a deadhead as provided by paragraph
C.2.a., above, will not be paid for the originally scheduled deadhead
segment of his trip, however his MMG will not be reduced.
a. Regular Pilots
(1) When a pilot’s trip is scheduled to terminate with a
deadhead to his domicile, he may, in coordination with
Crew Scheduling, terminate his trip at that outstation
airport.
(2) Pilot requests to Crew Scheduling in paragraph 3.a.,
above will be approved unless Crew Scheduling has an
additional flight assignment that same day that is
assigned to the pilot within fifteen (15) minutes after
block-in of his last leg prior to the original scheduled
deadhead.
3. Compensation
a. A pilot released from a deadhead as provided by paragraphs C.1,
or C.2.b., above, will be paid for the originally scheduled deadhead segment of his trip.
b. A pilot released from a deadhead as provided by paragraph
C.2.a., above, will not be paid for the originally scheduled deadhead
segment of his trip, however his MMG will not be reduced.
(2) Except as provided by paragraph c.(3), below, a pilot
awarded from a bid sheet using Vacation Low will have a
65 hour MMG.
(3) If the normal Credit Window is set below 75 hours, the
percentage of line holders awarded below 75 hours will
be determined and such percentage will then be applied
to Vacation Low pilots, who, in seniority order, will have
their 65 hour Vacation MMG increased by the amount
the bottom of the normal window is reduced below 75
hours.
awarded from a bid sheet using Vacation Low will have a
65 hour MMG.
(3) If the normal Credit Window is set below 75 hours, the
percentage of line holders awarded below 75 hours will
be determined and such percentage will then be applied
to Vacation Low pilots, who, in seniority order, will have
their 65 hour Vacation MMG increased by the amount
the bottom of the normal window is reduced below 75
hours.
o. Vacation Month Bidding
(1) A pilot may use Vacation Low in a month with a full week
or partial week of vacation. However, if a pilot has a full
week or partial week that spans two months, he may
only use Vacation Low in one of the two months.
(1) A pilot may use Vacation Low in a month with a full week
or partial week of vacation. However, if a pilot has a full
week or partial week that spans two months, he may
only use Vacation Low in one of the two months.
Bid Sequence and Timing
(1) The Company and the Association will mutually agree on
a bidding schedule 6 months in advance.
(2) The bidding schedule will include the following items:
(a) Bid Package publishing deadline
(b) Known preplanned activity deadline
(c) Bidding window closing
(d) Final Schedule for Lineholders – NLT the 20th, or
the next business day if the 20th falls on a
weekend or Holiday.
(1) The Company and the Association will mutually agree on
a bidding schedule 6 months in advance.
(2) The bidding schedule will include the following items:
(a) Bid Package publishing deadline
(b) Known preplanned activity deadline
(c) Bidding window closing
(d) Final Schedule for Lineholders – NLT the 20th, or
the next business day if the 20th falls on a
weekend or Holiday.
4) MMG hit based on personal credit threshold
Scheduling
D. 2. Legacy ASA System c. Minimum Monthly Guarantee (MMG)
(1) If because of the threshold line value or the credit
window min, the PBS awards or assigns a pilot a final
award that is less than MMG, then a pilot will still be paid
MMG in accordance with Section 4. If a pilot selected a
PCT below MMG his MMG will be reduced to his line
value.
Personal Credit Threshold – A credit value that a pilot selects
between 60-120 credit hours from the schedule options on the
Prefbid sheet.
D. 2. Legacy ASA System c. Minimum Monthly Guarantee (MMG)
(1) If because of the threshold line value or the credit
window min, the PBS awards or assigns a pilot a final
award that is less than MMG, then a pilot will still be paid
MMG in accordance with Section 4. If a pilot selected a
PCT below MMG his MMG will be reduced to his line
value.
Personal Credit Threshold – A credit value that a pilot selects
between 60-120 credit hours from the schedule options on the
Prefbid sheet.
G. 1. c. A pilot is considered notified of an assignment when either
the Company has contacted him or has made recorded attempts to
contact the pilot at all telephone numbers listed in the
Company’s computer system. Except as described in
paragraphs [1.i.], and [4.e.], below, assigning a trip in the
Company’s computer system does not constitute notification.
the Company has contacted him or has made recorded attempts to
contact the pilot at all telephone numbers listed in the
Company’s computer system. Except as described in
paragraphs [1.i.], and [4.e.], below, assigning a trip in the
Company’s computer system does not constitute notification.
C. Duty Pay and Minimum Day Credits
1. Regular Pilot
3-4
Section 3 – Compensation
a. A pilot will be paid and credited, at the applicable rate of pay
set forth in paragraph [A.], above, on a daily basis, the greater
of:
(1) Paragraphs [1.b.] or [1.c.], below, for Continuous Duty
Overnights (CDOs).
(2) Paragraphs [1.b.] or [1.d.], below for other than CDOs.
b. Block Hour Credit
The greater of actual or scheduled block time calculated on a
leg-by-leg basis, including deadhead credit and any additional
pay credits set forth in this Section.
c. Duty Hour Credit
1 minute of credit for each 2 minutes of originally scheduled
duty time calculated for each duty period up to 12 hours of duty,
and then 1 minute of credit for each 1 minute of originally
scheduled duty time after 12 hours of duty.
1. Regular Pilot
3-4
Section 3 – Compensation
a. A pilot will be paid and credited, at the applicable rate of pay
set forth in paragraph [A.], above, on a daily basis, the greater
of:
(1) Paragraphs [1.b.] or [1.c.], below, for Continuous Duty
Overnights (CDOs).
(2) Paragraphs [1.b.] or [1.d.], below for other than CDOs.
b. Block Hour Credit
The greater of actual or scheduled block time calculated on a
leg-by-leg basis, including deadhead credit and any additional
pay credits set forth in this Section.
c. Duty Hour Credit
1 minute of credit for each 2 minutes of originally scheduled
duty time calculated for each duty period up to 12 hours of duty,
and then 1 minute of credit for each 1 minute of originally
scheduled duty time after 12 hours of duty.
11-22-2013, 10:36 AM
#192
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
They all get paid 50 to 75 percent DH pay....I'm sure we could have kept alt. DH pay if we had agreed to match those other regionals...Is that what you would prefer? Keeping 100 percent DH pay was huge given the industry standard.
11-22-2013, 10:54 AM
#193
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: On The Jumpseat
Posts: 248
Yeah I agree BlueSkies I'm waiting to verify everything that is changes and/or concessions. Then I will request a mod edit the first post an add a summary for everyone to see on the first page.
11-22-2013, 10:59 AM
#194
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: B777 Capt
Posts: 844
LASA 2010 hire date. I'm a No vote to anything that doesn't pay me for my time. I deserve to be paid from the time I clock in to the time I clock out. I'll vote no to anything for the rest of my life that doesn't do this.
I'm excited that I finally get to voice my concerns with a No vote.
I'm excited that I finally get to voice my concerns with a No vote.
11-22-2013, 11:02 AM
#195
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: Grounded
Posts: 451
Do you actually believe that they will replace our fleet over Skywest's fleet? They will do the same thing like they did initially with the 900's. We are not guaranteed any of those replacement RJs.
11-22-2013, 01:11 PM
#197
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2010
Posts: 259
Just observing from the sidelines, however when you entered this industry were they paying from the time you clock in to the time you clock out? Why accept a job in a field that has NEVER paid in the manner you wish to be paid? In reality you are paid per diem from the time you check in to check out. Your "large" hourly rate is for piloting not planning.
I can't speak directly for ja2c, but I assume he means checking in for flight duty and getting paid, which is exactly what we have now in the form of rigs. With this TA our duty rig has been completely done away with.
Thanks for playing with your condescending tone though.
11-22-2013, 01:11 PM
#198
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Position: Airbus
Posts: 505
It is appalling that some of this garbage that is taking the ERJ side backwards is actually a step forward for the CRJ side. Overall, this whole thing is a slap in the face for us all. You have to look at everyone here. It is a definite NO
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
