Expressjet 2013/2014 Contract
11-21-2013, 02:51 PM
#82
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Originally Posted by NoHandHold
Waiitttttt...Found a turd me thinks:
We no longer get paid from brake release to brake set? Now from airplane first moving to last moving? LOLOL
Am I reading this wrong? You know how long I've sat at the gate after brake release because of incompetent support?
We no longer get paid from brake release to brake set? Now from airplane first moving to last moving? LOLOL
Am I reading this wrong? You know how long I've sat at the gate after brake release because of incompetent support?
11-21-2013, 02:51 PM
#83
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Originally Posted by NoHandHold
Waiitttttt...Found a turd me thinks:
We no longer get paid from brake release to brake set? Now from airplane first moving to last moving? LOLOL
Am I reading this wrong? You know how long I've sat at the gate after brake release because of incompetent support?
We no longer get paid from brake release to brake set? Now from airplane first moving to last moving? LOLOL
Am I reading this wrong? You know how long I've sat at the gate after brake release because of incompetent support?
11-21-2013, 02:53 PM
#84
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ERJ Comparisons:
Pay roughly the same
401k cut in match, and defined contribution is nearly eliminated over time
Trip check in- we have none now
Ready reserve now 6 (extendable up to 2 for a total of 8). Currently 4 hrs paid 4 hrs
Min day current 3.75 new 3.86
New duty rigs - we have none
Per diem is a cut from current of $1.80
Restored days off chosen by scheduling - currently chosen by pilot*
LTD insurance 3 years extendable to 5. Currently age 65, death, or resumption of flying regardless of new non-flying income.
DHD drop at end of pairing not paid. Currently pay protected.
Insurance ramped to 30% of premium.... Currently capped at 25%
Ah screw it.... I'm ****ing myself off.... This turd is a concession in every single section I've read except 2, and those aren't even that great....
Big F NO from me...
Pay roughly the same
401k cut in match, and defined contribution is nearly eliminated over time
Trip check in- we have none now
Ready reserve now 6 (extendable up to 2 for a total of 8). Currently 4 hrs paid 4 hrs
Min day current 3.75 new 3.86
New duty rigs - we have none
Per diem is a cut from current of $1.80
Restored days off chosen by scheduling - currently chosen by pilot*
LTD insurance 3 years extendable to 5. Currently age 65, death, or resumption of flying regardless of new non-flying income.
DHD drop at end of pairing not paid. Currently pay protected.
Insurance ramped to 30% of premium.... Currently capped at 25%
Ah screw it.... I'm ****ing myself off.... This turd is a concession in every single section I've read except 2, and those aren't even that great....
Big F NO from me...
11-21-2013, 03:00 PM
#85
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
It's exactly the same as the current language. No change.
Originally Posted by Redbird611
That's word for word out of the ASA contract, but we get paid from ACARS brake release to brake set. Not sure why they didn't clarify the language though.
11-21-2013, 03:03 PM
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So if I skip out on LGA-ATL freedom leg Deadhead and get alternate approved...I no longer get credit for LGA-ATL?
As a line holder we do get that credit in current contract.
Is this all correct?
As a line holder we do get that credit in current contract.
Is this all correct?
11-21-2013, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NoHandHold
So if I skip out on LGA-ATL freedom leg Deadhead and get alternate approved...I no longer get credit for LGA-ATL?
As a line holder we do get that credit in current contract.
Is this all correct?
As a line holder we do get that credit in current contract.
Is this all correct?
11-21-2013, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by j3tdr1v3r
8.C.3.b. A pilot released from a deadhead as provided by paragraph C.2.a., above, will not be paid for the originally scheduled deadhead segment of his trip, however his MMG will not be reduced.
So I'm right in thinking this is a change from what we have? I'm triple checking everything and verifying.
11-21-2013, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NoHandHold
Yea I read that.
So I'm right in thinking this is a change from what we have? I'm triple checking everything and verifying.
So I'm right in thinking this is a change from what we have? I'm triple checking everything and verifying.
Oh.... And just a thought on the brake release thing...if that is your current wording, and the "practice" is brake release, then why did they push to have separate language installed?
Why do you even need sub part b.? Why not have us all the same definition of doors closed and brake released to MCD open? Something for you guys to think about, if you think status quo practices continue after JCBA you may be in for a rude surprise...
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