Regardless of how this TA looks. We need to analyze Compass's TA to see how their vote goes. There might be some leverage based off that to send ours back to the drawing board, for some minor tweaks. Particularly per-diem. A super regional should deserve an industry leading contract.

ding ding ding.....they did but since Matchpoint worked there he can't blame himself, it's always the other airline's fault.

I said I wasn't going to comment on this anymore, but its been a while and I'm no longer ****ed off about it getting passed.

However, PSA didn't accept a "HUGE CONCESSIONARY" contract, we modified 2 items, Longevity length and health on a decent regional contract. Our current deal also got extended to 10 years. I can't say I'm happy about what we have now but it isn't a "dagger in the heart" to regional contracts. A 12 year longevity cap is in line with major carriers, and my health insurance went DOWN this year. That's right....DOWN.

Anyone who was already above the new longevity cap stays above it. Anyone coming in to this industry should not plan on staying at a regional for 12+ years in the current environment and therefore will never see the cap anyway.

Again, this is not the ideal situation for us but our contract otherwise is decent.

I am a bottom line holder at PSA(there were only 6 lines awarded below my seniority) and I have 18 days off with xmas and new years off for december and 16 days off with thanksgiving off for november. All of this is due to our "HUGE CONCESSIONARY" contract.

I know I'm gonna get hit hard for this post so have at it.

I wish XJT all the best for their new deal, you all deserve it.

There is no vote at Compass. Management and our MEC agreed on 95% of our new contract, the rest was sent to an arbitrator.

So then is the contract ratified? And if yes what was the DOS?

Yes it is, no word yet from them on exact DOS.

Comair's paycuts were much like XJTs and Horizons; it took them from industry leading to competitive. Not the very bottom….. Plus Comair, Horizon and XJTs concessions didn’t send shockwaves throughout the industry like 9E and PSA’s.

Hahahaha, "my hate." That's too funny..... I don't hate anyone and I don't blame 9E pilots for the circumstances that surrounded their contract. When I posted I posted about what your TA has done to the industry and I sure as hell never "threatened or accused." Stop making things up, you're stretching. I find it extremely comical that everyone's willing stand up and talk about unity within the industry and then cry’s when no one comes to their rescue. The only unity that matters is the unity within your airline and you need to understand that pilots outside of your carrier are your competition. I work for SkyWest and when SkyWest succeeds I succeed and when they fail I fail just like what happen at 9E.

I think you need to see a shrink for your anger issues my friend.

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I'll agree the Pinnacle contract is a raw deal. I work under it. Those were a different set of circumstances then PSA and now yourself.

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Interesting, when did SkyWest cap our payscales at 12 years and cut our top CAs pay by 22%? I was unaware we took concessions, damn. More than likely you just don't know who "OO" is.

All valid points....... regardless these contracts have been used to force those who in negotiations into lower paying TAs. Mgmt. doesn't care that 9E was in bankruptcy; they only care about what their cost structure currently is and how they can manipulate their pilots into something similar.

And please correct me if I'm wrong but didn't 9E also received interviews for their CAs at Delta with a guaranteed number of seats for signing the new TA.....? I could be wrong but I thought I heard something like this.