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Bartok 11-20-2013 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by MatchPoint (Post 1524218)
No my friend,

Exhibit A was Pinnacle who drove a huge dagger into the heart of our industry.
Exhibit B is PSA who just followed suit and pushed it in deeper.

Now that they've set the precedence regional pilots everywhere are under attack to join in on what Pinnacle and PSA started. Because of them the best we can now hope for is status quo……..

If I was you........I'd vote no.

MatchPoint 11-20-2013 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1524297)
ding ding ding.....they did but since Matchpoint worked there he can't blame himself, it's always the other airline's fault.

Worked where? Comair? Damn you guys are stretching or just Delusional. I never worked for Comair, I work for SkyWest. Do you guys know who OO is, hell you probably have no clue what "add in" means. lol You guys are the reason why people hate coming on these boards; you bicker, attack and fight like a bunch of little school girls.

Sad, you guys have some anger issues, you need some help before it ruins your lives...


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1524423)
If I was you........I'd vote no.

I do not work for XJT but I have a few friends over there and they don't scare easily.


Now back on topic, did you guys at XJT keep your vacation (L-XJT) rules?

Bartok 11-20-2013 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by MatchPoint (Post 1524427)
Worked where? Comair? Damn you guys are stretching or just Delusional. I never worked for Comair, I work for SkyWest. Do you guys know who OO is, hell you probably have no clue what "add in" means. lol You guys are the reason why people hate coming on these boards; you bicker, attack and fight like a bunch of little school girls.

Sad, you guys have some anger issues, you need some help before it ruins your lives...

Back on topic, did you guys at XJT keep your vacation (L-XJT) rules?

Asks the pilot with no vote.

Because he has to rely on everyone else's vote.

IBPilot 11-20-2013 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by MatchPoint (Post 1524218)
No my friend,

Exhibit A was Pinnacle who drove a huge dagger into the heart of our industry.
Exhibit B is PSA who just followed suit and pushed it in deeper.

Now that they've set the precedence regional pilots everywhere are under attack to join in on what Pinnacle and PSA started. Because of them the best we can now hope for is status quo……..


Originally Posted by MatchPoint (Post 1524427)
Worked where? Comair? Damn you guys are stretching or just Delusional. I never worked for Comair, I work for SkyWest. Do you guys know who OO is, hell you probably have no clue what "add in" means. lol You guys are the reason why people hate coming on these boards; you bicker, attack and fight like a bunch of little school girls.

Sad, you guys have some anger issues, you need some help before it ruins your lives...


I do not work for XJT but I have a few friends over there and they don't scare easily.


Now back on topic, did you guys at XJT keep your vacation (L-XJT) rules?


My bad, I know what OO is, i thought you worked (formerly obviously) for Comair. My Mistake. But don't preach to us about bickering and attacking when you did the same thing!!!!

Geardownflaps30 11-20-2013 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by tom14cat14 (Post 1524255)
Correct me if I am wrong I thought Comair took pay cuts trying to save their airline.

The cuts were during the giant Delta bankruptcy. The cuts came under the guise of the bankruptcy proceedings but were not nearly as draconian as either Pinnacle's or PSA's agreements. Of course Pinnacle's were under the guise of a bankruptcy too, although the Comair pilots voted the first offering in bankruptcy down unlike the Pinnacle pilots that accepted theirs. PSA pilots were just clueless doing what they did. There was no bankruptcy.

We (Comair pilots) never got a chance to vote to "save" our jobs. Delta just announced that we are going to shut you down in 63 days; Good Luck!!

MatchPoint 11-20-2013 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1524436)
My bad, I know what OO is, i thought you worked (formerly obviously) for Comair. My Mistake. But don't preach to us about bickering and attacking when you did the same thing!!!!

No worries, you're not alone; there are a lot of posters on here who make false accusations and assumptions. Not that working for Comair was a thing, at one time they were an amazing regional.

I'm not bickering or attacking anyone, it’s what you presume given that the written work is one dimensional. I make comments in general and people then attack. It matters not, the truth hurts but people here love to get personal when all I want to talk about is business.

Bartok 11-20-2013 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 (Post 1524439)
The cuts were during the giant Delta bankruptcy. The cuts came under the guise of the bankruptcy proceedings but were not nearly as draconian as either Pinnacle's or PSA's agreements. Of course Pinnacle's were under the guise of a bankruptcy too, although the Comair pilots voted the first offering in bankruptcy down unlike the Pinnacle pilots that accepted theirs. PSA pilots were just clueless doing what they did. There was no bankruptcy.

We (Comair pilots) never got a chance to vote to "save" our jobs. Delta just announced that we are going to shut you down in 63 days. Good Luck!!

Actually, 9E won all of its bankruptcy court dealings fighting this.

It wasn't until Delta stepped in and started doing all of managements "negotiations", and point blank said this is our final offer, take it or die.

It worked.


Still better than anyone else that accepts concessions "because Pinnacle did it".

That would suck.

MatchPoint 11-20-2013 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1524434)
Asks the pilot with no vote.

Because he has to rely on everyone else's vote.

Zing....lol...Ignorance is bliss. We've voted on every agreement we've had and voted several down just to renegotiate for better pay and rules, but then again many on here don't care about facts. They'd rather post hearsay, rumors and conspiracies. Posters such as yourself like to talk about us riding coat tails but there are policies here which we've had for years that most regionals either don't have or received over the past couple years. We worry about our own ship because it's who we work for and yes what other do affects us but the majority of the time it's negatively. Regardless we deal and do the best we can.

9E, PSA, RAH, Compass, Mesa, AE, etc. are our competitors. Just like in every other industry in the world not everyone can succeed, that’s a liberal BS snowflake view. You probably thing every kid deserves a trophy for showing up.

Man you guys sure can derail a thread.


Bartok 11-20-2013 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by MatchPoint (Post 1524458)
Zing....lol...Ignorance is bliss. We've voted on every agreement we've had and voted several down just to renegotiate for better pay and rules, but then again many on here don't care about facts. They'd rather post hearsay, rumors and conspiracies. Posters such as yourself like to talk about us riding coat tails but there are policies here which we've had for years that most regionals either don't have or received over the past couple years. We worry about our own ship because it's who we work for and yes what other do affects us but the majority of the time it's negatively. Regardless we deal because that their decision.

Regardless, 9E, PSA, RAH, Compass, Mesa, AE, etc. are my competitors. Just like in every other industry in the world not everyone can succeed, that’s a liberal BS snowflake view. You probably thing every kid deserves a trophy for showing up.

Man you guys sure can derail a thread.


Lol, ok, so then Skywest will allow you to vote on your next concessionary contract.

Must be nice.

And this "derail" wasn't started by us, it was everyone else telling us how easy it is to vote "no". (for the sake of the industry)

MatchPoint 11-20-2013 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1524468)
Lol, ok, so then Skywest will allow you to vote on your next concessionary contract.

Must be nice.

And this "derail" wasn't started by us, it was everyone else telling us how easy it is to vote "no". (for the sake of the industry)

Our "next." When was our first? haha Still making things up are we?

You work for XJT right? Go back and read all my postings, ever, and you won't come across a single posting where I advised anyone to vote no or yes. That's your decision so you do what you feel is best for you and your company and forget about everyone else. People will give their opinions but who cares, I don't. And yes I give opinions as well but I will never bash you or any other pilot personally because I'm not in your shoes or work for your company. I will however talk about its effect on us but don't take it personal; I'm just talking from a business stand point.


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