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KSCessnaDriver 10-23-2016 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by KaiserSoze (Post 2229639)
How would they merge? XJT is wholly owned by SkyWest. Endeavor would have to buy XJT?

Delta would have to buy XJT. I'd bet on Delta just moving flying from XJT to 9E versus another merger, especially when one of the companies is really just getting over a messy merger of 3 into 1

SydKat 10-23-2016 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Hou757 (Post 2229591)
I sure hope you are leaving for Commutair or Mesa. If not, I think it's time for you to go and leave this "sinking ship".... as you say.

I left several months ago for an LCC. Smartest move I've made, and no regrets.

Hou757 10-23-2016 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by SydKat (Post 2229669)
I left several months ago for an LCC. Smartest move I've made, and no regrets.

Nothing wrong with that move. I wish you the best!

SydKat 10-23-2016 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Hou757 (Post 2229714)
Nothing wrong with that move. I wish you the best!

Thanks! :)

hawk21 10-23-2016 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by KaiserSoze (Post 2229639)
How would they merge? XJT is wholly owned by SkyWest. Endeavor would have to buy XJT?

Pretty sure SkyWest Inc. is letting XJT bleed out.

VIRotate 10-23-2016 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by max gross (Post 2229370)
You sir are the totd. Congrats. When that 9 year FO went to ExpressJet, it was the place to be. No one can predict what happens in this industry.

Oh please. TOTD for simply stating a fact of life. :rolleyes: I would love for things to get better at XJT. Believe me. They were the airline I really wanted to go to until I had FOs and CAs there tell me to stay away. So stating that they have 9 year FOs makes me the bad guy? In what universe? I just state the truth and reality of the situation and I'm called a tool? Wow. Seriously you must be a recruiter because the whole point of this forum is to talk about what actually is happening at the airline, hopefully to steer people in the right direction.

gojo 10-23-2016 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by hawk21 (Post 2229839)
Pretty sure SkyWest Inc. is letting XJT bleed out.

I'm getting the feeling that they'd rather divest themselves from Express Jet. I don't think it worked out the way they hoped it would. Every thing new seems to go to the non union side and they are slowly shrinking both sides of Express Jet. Interesting times ahead for sure

jacburn 10-23-2016 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2229918)
I'm getting the feeling that they'd rather divest themselves from Express Jet. I don't think it worked out the way they hoped it would. Every thing new seems to go to the non union side and they are slowly shrinking both sides of Express Jet. Interesting times ahead for sure

I think it is going exactly how they had it planned. Grow the Mainline Skywest and get rid of the competition (ASA and XJT). They seem to be making money while shutting down the competition.

SilentLurker 10-23-2016 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Jland0413 (Post 2227938)
CommutAir pay just isn't that great yet. I see what you mean though.
What do you think about Republic to United. No CPP but the benefits are great.

Your thinking very short term.... 2 months ago Folks passed up on Envoy, Piedmont, PSA but did not look at the trends. Now the 3 WO are top paying regional with a career progression opportunity w/any interview to AA should they choose to when their number is called.

At AA, the president did fight for the staff or try to pull a trigger to invest in empoyees & increase wages. That is "President" who was at AA departed AA (let go by the Board of Directors) and is now the new President at UA.

Once he left AA, Robert Isom (new President) future AA CEO, opened the purses which the WO are now benefiting from.

Don't be short sighted in this industry. Research what DL did to Comair & almost did to Pinnacle.Air Wisconsin was a top tier regional. Potentially going under. Express jet was a top regional, potentially going under.

Just recommending you not be short sighted.

SilentLurker 10-23-2016 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Braniff DC8 (Post 2228680)
PSA, not let them fail??? Braniff, Eastern, Pan Am, TWA. The darlings of deregulation: Air Florida, America West, Midway. ALL GONE! The government will let them fail and Sept 11 was a one off to save jobs. The truth is AA, DAL, UA, AWA and USA were all in big trouble after Sept 11 and any or all of them could have shut down. Some would say they should have to save those that were stronger but that's more opinion. Dinosaurs were chosen for extinction (see the great statement by Jeff Goldbloom in Jurassic park).

I would say that their is a shortage of perhaps those applying for licenses but that can always be taken care of, as it is now, by expats. South Africans and Australians in particular. Thousands would line up for the "American dream. It's a lot safer and cheaper to live in the USA.

The regionals are offering better deals by now for sure. It was as not all that long ago where you had to pay 10,000$ to fly a Beech 1900 at Commutair and all the other regionals for that matter. The flows are great but that's been a long time coming.

The promises of flows and all those bonuses can be taken away anytime.

Sorry to be Debby Downer but I have watched this rodeo for many many years and eventually it goes down hill. Watching all the poor Eastern guys trying to find work in 90/91 was really sad.

I think a lot of the young guys and gals today from the military and the regionals or 135 might not know the history of the airline industry. Like the Kennedy's, interesting and great history but lots and lots of skeletons that were often swept under the rug.

Most of the airlines could care less about you and will dump you on the street, cut your pay and take your pension anytime they want. All these great deals or contracts still have force mejure in them!

Second rant finished.

Ancillary fee, and 3 passenger majors remaining & SW, JB, Alaska/Virgin (once approved by DOJ).

THE AIRLINE BUSINESS MODEL OF THE PAST HAS CHANGED. NOT ONLY IS THERE LESS COMPETITON, BUT THE MAJORS HAVE FOUND A WAY TO MAKE MORE MONEY. OPERATE A MORE FUEL EFFICIENT OPERATION, ROUTES, PROCEDURE, NEXTGEN, etc...THEY WILL NOT GO BROKE and Bankrupt AS easily THEY DID IN THE PAST. SOME MAJOR EVENT OR CATASTROPHES MUST OCCURE.

THIS IS NOT YOUR 1990's Airline. More efficient airplanes & profits.

They can handle higher fuel prices also. Capacity control is a great tool being utilized, better fair pricing, using smarter algorithms.

THIS INDUSTRY IS DIFFERENT. NOT THE EARLY 2000s Majors or industry either.

Don't be fooled. They will be making money for a long time, baring Global meltdown, catastrophe, and harmful domestic regulation.


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