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Old 11-22-2016, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85 View Post
It's funny when you guys talk about your SAP at PSA, how you can get 20 days off and get 65 hours or pay or 100 hr of pay with 12 days off. Well here, I can get 75 hours with 20 days off, or 125 hours with 12 days off.

Oh, and no line holder ever has to work holidays according to your SAP cheerleaders.
Almost as funny as an XJT guy telling everyone that upgrade time is falling.

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And upgrade time is falling.
What is the upgrade time right now? What is the date of the most JR CA at XJT?
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Old 11-22-2016, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85 View Post
It's funny when you guys talk about your SAP at PSA, how you can get 20 days off and get 65 hours or pay or 100 hr of pay with 12 days off. Well here, I can get 75 hours with 20 days off, or 125 hours with 12 days off.

Oh, and no line holder ever has to work holidays according to your SAP cheerleaders.
With the SAP, the above is possible for the most senior to the. It's junior pilots. That's what's great about it, ANY line holder can do that, and yes, ANY and ALL line pilots can drop holidays. Because the SAP happens with no reserve grid to stop it. Sure you may get what you're saying at ExpressJet, but with PBS those types of schedules are for the senior guys while the junior ones are left with crap lines and 11 days off. And everyone else claiming they have SAP, has a reserve grid that restricts how many pilots can drop trips and move stuff around, PSA does not have that. It's unrestricted.

While I'm no cheerleader for the SAP or PSA, it annoys me when guys who don't understand how it really works start talking like it's nothing and their company has it as well. It really is the biggest QOL tool around, and NO ONE else has it.
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Old 11-22-2016, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by No Lies View Post
Almost as funny as an XJT guy telling everyone that upgrade time is falling.



What is the upgrade time right now? What is the date of the most JR CA at XJT?

Upgrade time has fallen to 7 or 8 decades. There is not written records of when the most recent upgrade took place. Some geologist believe it may have taken place somewhere between the paleolithic era and mesolithic era.
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Originally Posted by andili61 View Post
Upgrade time has fallen to 7 or 8 decades. There is not written records of when the most recent upgrade took place. Some geologist believe it may have taken place somewhere between the paleolithic era and mesolithic era.
That is hilarious ...
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Originally Posted by andili61 View Post
Upgrade time has fallen to 7 or 8 decades. There is not written records of when the most recent upgrade took place. Some geologist believe it may have taken place somewhere between the paleolithic era and mesolithic era.
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Originally Posted by WakeWash View Post
With the SAP, the above is possible for the most senior to the. It's junior pilots. That's what's great about it, ANY line holder can do that, and yes, ANY and ALL line pilots can drop holidays. Because the SAP happens with no reserve grid to stop it. Sure you may get what you're saying at ExpressJet, but with PBS those types of schedules are for the senior guys while the junior ones are left with crap lines and 11 days off. And everyone else claiming they have SAP, has a reserve grid that restricts how many pilots can drop trips and move stuff around, PSA does not have that. It's unrestricted.



While I'm no cheerleader for the SAP or PSA, it annoys me when guys who don't understand how it really works start talking like it's nothing and their company has it as well. It really is the biggest QOL tool around, and NO ONE else has it.


Only the CRJ side has pbs. The ERJ side has good line building rules, good vacation rules, good trading rules including the initial line improvement window and the secondary line improvement window with bad day worse day trades. These are all things that all line holders can take advantage of although not all line holders can get Halloween and Super Bowl Sunday off.
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Originally Posted by Nevjets View Post
Only the CRJ side has pbs. The ERJ side has good line building rules, good vacation rules, good trading rules including the initial line improvement window and the secondary line improvement window with bad day worse day trades. These are all things that all line holders can take advantage of although not all line holders can get Halloween and Super Bowl Sunday off.
And proboly part of the reason that they are going from 280 airplanes down to ~100.... while the ASA side remains status quo..and its not Just the pilots. The MX contract isn't favorable for the company...

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Old 11-22-2016, 02:13 PM
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And proboly part of the reason that they are going from 280 airplanes down to ~100.... while the ASA side remains status quo..and its not Just the pilots. The MX contract isn't favorable for the company...
With other regionals offering so much $$$, I can't see how xjet is really that expensive anymore, other than that we have a lot of people at the top of the scales. Even for mechanics, I heard most other regionals now pay better than xjet.
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:40 PM
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Are any of you hearing that some 200s are transferring from Express jet to endeavor? This business is just mainline playing the regionals against each other. I guess there is not much one pilot can do. While I'd love an Atlanta base I hate for it to be at the expense of another pilot group. Hopefully it's just rumors
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Are any of you hearing that some 200s are transferring from Express jet to endeavor?
I did but endeavor is to transfer 900s to Expressjet. One for one. They are shifting 717 s to the NW and want to back fill ATL with 900s and since Expressjet already is operating them in ATL they are going to increase the number. The 200s in the transfer will be used primarily out of LGA by endeavor.
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