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HuntinFishin 12-12-2017 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2482211)
^^^^ This.
It’s not 2012. AAL WOs get a flow. DAL WOs get an interview. UAL will soon find the 145s they own being parked with no one to fly them.

Just a thought maybe skyw..( i almost said it ) stINC wants that force UAL to pay for more of their 175's to pick up slack (whos training program asa XJT funded by the way). Guys we have Had a checkers mentality while SGU was playing chess.. Everyone knows that delta is funding the bonuses and the captain pay for downgraded captains right that's why it only goes to those under the delta CPA. Talk to a rep if you didn't know that. The deal for stINC is can they make more money selling XJT to ual or charging them in a new cpa on their 175s. Hand it to the RMJ's i think they are gouging delta and united with this deal. Just a thought..

PontiusPilot 12-12-2017 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by HuntinFishin (Post 2482203)
With all the other cpp boxes checked. 4year degree being one.

You likely need the degree for a conditional offer, but not to simply take the Hogan through the CPP.

NYGiantsFan 12-12-2017 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by ecam (Post 2482101)
The last piece of advice I'll offer (besides GTFO, ASAP), is ignore the BS coming from management. They did the same thing to us, floating all these rumors of great things coming, but only if we stay. Delta and SkyWest are ruthless and don't care one bit about you. They will say whatever they have to say to keep you working until their predetermined shut down date. Then when the cat is out of the bag and the date has been announced, they will turn to bribes. The rumor that United will buy you guys and staple you is one of the best I've ever heard. In the unlikely chance UAL takes a 49% stake, the most you'll get is a guaranteed Hogan. Direct flow is dead because then they lose control of their hiring. UAL still has thousands of qualified applicants on file, and they can afford to be choosy. AA is an anomaly and not everyone over there thinks its grand.


It is not about Ual having enough apps on file! They openly say their goal is to attract pilots and boost their pipeline of pilots.. that is what they say their goal is... this is about stabilizing their FEED by making sure they are STAFFED!! A direct flow could be 25%-35% of all UAL newhires coming from the direct flow... they will still control 75% or so of their hiring from Off the Street... keep in mind that they already interviewed probably 60% or so of the XJT pilot group(erj) through the CPP already... so in reality, they will just make a flow of a group they already interviewed. Maybe the guys not so lucky in the cpp will probably get a lucky pass with a flow. I have heard most of guys got the thumbs up on the 2nd time around anyway. But the word "flow" to new hires.. that sounds good. I also wouldnt be shocked to see United throw Xjt some extra money to boost the signing bonus for new hires. If you want to see what will happen "IF it does" just look how Envoy is setup with AA and thats where Kirby came from. Xjt would become a separate subsidiary of Ual similar to Envoy is to AA and they put in a flow (no staple), help Xjt boost signing bonuses and then all the sudden Xjt is in the game as far as new hires wanting to go to XJT. The airline becomes staffed and then you have stability, once stability comes then you can add some growth while being in control of that growth, hey they might even cancel some E175 contracts and bring those E175s to Xjt. Ual has been at a disadvantage against DAL,AA not owning a regional outright. The times have changed and Kirby knows this and frankly so do alot of people. Its that simple

John Carr 12-12-2017 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by NYGiantsFan (Post 2482263)
It is not about Ual having enough apps on file! They openly say their goal is to attract pilots and boost their pipeline of pilots.. that is what they say their goal is... this is about stabilizing their FEED by making sure they are STAFFED!!

Yep, pretty much.


A direct flow could be 25%-35% of all UAL newhires coming from the direct flow... they will still control 75% or so of their hiring from Off the Street...
Currently, their controlling 25% hiring from XJT, 10% from C5, and how much from AWAC? And that will basically stay that way into 2019.


I have heard most of guys got the thumbs up on the 2nd time around anyway.
That's good to hear if it's the case. But it's only been what? A few that have had the actual round 2?


But the word "flow" to new hires.. that sounds good. I also wouldnt be shocked to see United throw Xjt some extra money to boost the signing bonus for new hires.
True.


If you want to see what will happen "IF it does" just look how Envoy is setup with AA and thats where Kirby came from.
Who knows? Who's to say it won't be anything more than what Commutair has?

Hou757 12-12-2017 01:47 PM

Their Commutair trial was a disaster. They will have to offer way more than that!

DownInPetaluma 12-12-2017 02:44 PM

No sweat, guys....our partners are noticing

SkipperBaloo 12-12-2017 04:45 PM

Our COO TV apparently sold about $600k in shares at the end of November. Still think there's nothing to see here?

PontiusPilot 12-12-2017 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by SkipperBaloo (Post 2482373)
Our COO TV apparently sold about $600k in shares at the end of November. Still think there's nothing to see here?

Where's this info coming from?

DownInPetaluma 12-12-2017 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by PontiusPilot (Post 2482381)
Where's this info coming from?

That’s public knowledge. Has to be filed with the SEC

PontiusPilot 12-12-2017 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma (Post 2482385)
That’s public knowledge. Has to be filed with the SEC

True... I found the data. Thanks


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