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04-29-2017 | 01:32 PM
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You can't calculate the volume of an AAD by multiplying 88 by 126 by 96. While the AMJ container is almost a true cube (one corner chopped off), the AAD is not. The AAD has a severe taper to fit in the B-767 tube.
Volumes of the cans are published (I don't have time to look at this second.) I recommend you find those volumes in order to make accurate comparisons. Comparing the footprint on the main deck is very misleading.
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04-29-2017 | 02:32 PM
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FedEx shows their AMJ container has 590.3cu, while an A1/AAD seems to have 507cu.
MD10 has 23 AMJ positions (best I can tell), giving it 13,576cu ft main deck volume.
A330F/22 AMJ positions gives it 12,986cu ft main deck volume.
A330F/20 AMJ & 3 AAD positions gives it 11,911cu ft main deck volume.
767 has 24 A1/AAD positions, giving it 12,168cu ft main deck volume.
767-300F gives up roughly 10.3% main deck volume to a MD10 and roughly 6.5% main deck volume to an all-AMJ A330F.
And of course, the bigger airplanes hold more in the belly, too.
MD10 has 23 AMJ positions (best I can tell), giving it 13,576cu ft main deck volume.
A330F/22 AMJ positions gives it 12,986cu ft main deck volume.
A330F/20 AMJ & 3 AAD positions gives it 11,911cu ft main deck volume.
767 has 24 A1/AAD positions, giving it 12,168cu ft main deck volume.
767-300F gives up roughly 10.3% main deck volume to a MD10 and roughly 6.5% main deck volume to an all-AMJ A330F.
And of course, the bigger airplanes hold more in the belly, too.
04-29-2017 | 03:11 PM
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Besides volume, there are zone loading restrictions, max weight restrictions, CG restrictions, not to mention the ranges and cost to buy/operate. It's a huge math problem to figure out what an airplanes capabilities are.
04-30-2017 | 06:05 AM
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It's too bad because based on payload/range, a -200 BCF seems like a very good MD-11 replacement.
04-30-2017 | 08:23 AM
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It's volume.
Volume limitations drive the need for a B-757 to follow a B-767 when it tries to replace an MD-10. 2 pilots and 3 engines are replaced by 4 pilots and 4 engines. Good bean counting there.
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04-30-2017 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony
Volume limitations drive the need for a B-757 to follow a B-767 when it tries to replace an MD-10. 2 pilots and 3 engines are replaced by 4 pilots and 4 engines. Good bean counting there.
04-30-2017 | 10:48 AM
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