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Old 02-16-2018 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
Monday is a holiday...President's Day.

That used to be something to celebrate.
We used to have two Federal Holidays in February: Lincoln's B-day (12th) and Washington's B-day (22nd). They meant something because each of these presidents was instrumental in forming the union and preserving the union.

Now we have a nebulous "President's Day," so that the Feds could insert MLK Day in January without adding an additional national holiday. The result: the diminution of our nation's two greatest presidents, and the Left's egalitarian principle that all president's are equally great...just pick the one you like.
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Old 02-16-2018 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PicklePausePull
We used to have two Federal Holidays in February: Lincoln's B-day (12th) and Washington's B-day (22nd). They meant something because each of these presidents was instrumental in forming the union and preserving the union.

Now we have a nebulous "President's Day," so that the Feds could insert MLK Day in January without adding an additional national holiday. The result: the diminution of our nation's two greatest presidents, and the Left's egalitarian principle that all president's are equally great...just pick the one you like.
Besides, yes there used to be two days observed you’re statement is completely false. Washington’s Birthday was voted into law by congress as a national holiday in 1968, and the name was morphed into Presidents‘ Day because of advertising reasons. MLK day wasn’t a national holiday until RONALD REAGAN signed it into law in 1983.

https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2004/winter/gw-birthday-1.html
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Old 02-16-2018 | 10:12 AM
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Holidays are great and with the great freedom that comes with being an American you can choose to celebrate whomever, however, and with whoever you so choose.

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Old 02-16-2018 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Beertini
I fixed it for you.

Wow! Did I say anything about the "decision making process" or "seniority vs. QOL decision-making"? You make it sound like my statement had a selfish motive..."my ideal world".

All I was saying is that the practice bids only provide value if guys are honest in what they put down. The decision on what to bid and when to bid it is completely yours. But, by the time we get to Practice Bid #2, it only adds value if it is accurate. Sure, there will be some changes but, for the most part, it should be close.

My only point was don't fabricate what you bid during the practice bids just because you feel like messing with the rest of us.

I don't think that was very hard to understand. You must be one of the offenders. Whatever! Have a nice day.
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Old 02-16-2018 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mempurpleflyer
Wow! Did I say anything about the "decision making process" or "seniority vs. QOL decision-making"? You make it sound like my statement had a selfish motive..."my ideal world".

All I was saying is that the practice bids only provide value if guys are honest in what they put down. The decision on what to bid and when to bid it is completely yours. But, by the time we get to Practice Bid #2, it only adds value if it is accurate. Sure, there will be some changes but, for the most part, it should be close.

My only point was don't fabricate what you bid during the practice bids just because you feel like messing with the rest of us.

I don't think that was very hard to understand. You must be one of the offenders. Whatever! Have a nice day.
I reviewed my post and I didn't see any place where I accused you of stating anything about QOL or decision making. The edits I posted were clearly my words with highlighted letters. At no time did I attempt to put words in your mouth.

It may be only anecdotal but I believe that ALL system bid inputs are an individual decision and each individual's decision process includes such things as QOL and seniority considerations. The entire decision making process affects each individual's system bidding timeline and that individual timeline doesn't always align with the FDX practice bids. It also doesn't necessarily align with any other pilot's decision making process and practice bid input.

As an example, I didn't even consider changing my standing bid until the night before the bid closed. I did this for a variety of reasons but the primary reason is I wasn't considering giving up my seniority until a buddy called and mentioned where I stood in the practice bid #2. This example is clearly at odds with what you frame as an ideal bidding process. I understand and agree with your explanation of what the ideal timeline MIGHT look like. However, you resorted to an Ad Hominem attack by inferring that those of us who did not bid according to your stated ideal are 'knuckleheads.' You then followed it up by stating that, 'You must be one of the offenders.'

My 'I fixed it for you' post was merely to express my displeasure at being called a knucklehead. Thanks for the well wishes and I hope you have a great day as well.

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Old 02-16-2018 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 5millionaire
Besides, yes there used to be two days observed you’re statement is completely false. Washington’s Birthday was voted into law by congress as a national holiday in 1968, and the name was morphed into Presidents‘ Day because of advertising reasons. MLK day wasn’t a national holiday until RONALD REAGAN signed it into law in 1983.

https://www.archives.gov/publication...irthday-1.html
My statement is not false:

"Although Lincoln’s Birthday had never been designated as a federal holiday, it was observed as a state holiday in many parts of the country. However, after additional federal holidays were created for Columbus Day and the Birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr. (in 1971 and 1986, respectively), some states dropped the observance of Lincoln’s Birthday as a separate holiday in order to maintain a fixed number of paid holidays per year."

I remember losing Lincoln's Bday as a holiday in my state because of the new MLK holiday. This was precipitated by moving Washington's Bday from Feb 22 to the nebulous third Monday in Feb. As predicted by the opponents of this move, Washington's Bday is largely forgotten, as is Lincoln's. Two Feb holidays down to one.
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Old 02-16-2018 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PicklePausePull
My statement is not false:

"Although Lincoln’s Birthday had never been designated as a federal holiday, it was observed as a state holiday in many parts of the country. However, after additional federal holidays were created for Columbus Day and the Birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr. (in 1971 and 1986, respectively), some states dropped the observance of Lincoln’s Birthday as a separate holiday in order to maintain a fixed number of paid holidays per year."

I remember losing Lincoln's Bday as a holiday in my state because of the new MLK holiday. This was precipitated by moving Washington's Bday from Feb 22 to the nebulous third Monday in Feb. As predicted by the opponents of this move, Washington's Bday is largely forgotten, as is Lincoln's. Two Feb holidays down to one.
So do you have an issue with MLK Bday being a holiday or the fact that Lincoln and Washington Bday are been overlooked?
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Old 02-16-2018 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
So do you have an issue with MLK Bday being a holiday or the fact that Lincoln and Washington Bday are been overlooked?
I have a problem with his dream being morphed from "not the color of his skin" to the color of his skin.
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Old 02-16-2018 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fdxlag2
I have a problem with his dream being morphed from "not the color of his skin" to the color of his skin.
Please explain you position

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Old 02-16-2018 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Beertini
I reviewed my post and I didn't see any place where I accused you of stating anything about QOL or decision making. The edits I posted were clearly my words with highlighted letters. At no time did I attempt to put words in your mouth.

It may be only anecdotal but I believe that ALL system bid inputs are an individual decision and each individual's decision process includes such things as QOL and seniority considerations. The entire decision making process affects each individual's system bidding timeline and that individual timeline doesn't always align with the FDX practice bids. It also doesn't necessarily align with any other pilot's decision making process and practice bid input.

As an example, I didn't even consider changing my standing bid until the night before the bid closed. I did this for a variety of reasons but the primary reason is I wasn't considering giving up my seniority until a buddy called and mentioned where I stood in the practice bid #2. This example is clearly at odds with what you frame as an ideal bidding process. I understand and agree with your explanation of what the ideal timeline MIGHT look like. However, you resorted to an Ad Hominem attack by inferring that those of us who did not bid according to your stated ideal are 'knuckleheads.' You then followed it up by stating that, 'You must be one of the offenders.'

My 'I fixed it for you' post was merely to express my displeasure at being called a knucklehead. Thanks for the well wishes and I hope you have a great day as well.

Cheers,
Beertini the Offending Knucklehead

1. Well, when you copy my post and add your own verbiage and then state "I fixed it for you", you are, in fact, putting words in my mouth. You are suggesting that I didn't choose my words correctly and, therefore, you "fixed" it so it says what I really meant to say.

2. The fact that your buddy was able to call you and you made a decision based on where you stood in practice bid #2 just proves my point. Your standing in practice bid #2 is only as good as the practice bid itself. If the bid is full of inaccurate inputs, your standing is also inaccurate.

3. I didn't call you a knucklehead. It is obvious that you were using the system the way it was designed. The knuckleheads are the guys who intentionally go into the practice bids and input choices that they have NO intention on keeping for no other reason than to entertain themselves.
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