Arbitration
03-21-2018, 06:34 PM
#12
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: B767
Posts: 795
Originally Posted by MEMA300
It’s easier to write your check to ALPA than run ur own union like FPA. Not until more than 47% of us get our head out of our ass and read a contract and realize what we are giving up for a 3-4% raise will things change. SIG SLA was hardly even discussed during the 07-08 contract. That was the equivalent of giving them PBS as far as efficiency gains are concerned. Let’s see 8in24 this last contract.
I honestly don’t care anymore because it doesn’t matter what you think. Get ur medical, pass your checkride, retire and get the eff out of here. No use beating your head against the wall.
I honestly don’t care anymore because it doesn’t matter what you think. Get ur medical, pass your checkride, retire and get the eff out of here. No use beating your head against the wall.
03-21-2018, 09:38 PM
#13
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Joined APC: May 2006
Position: Excessed WB Capt.
Posts: 1,063
Originally Posted by Nightflyer
A300, you had better care, because they are getting ready to take your retirement.
With the MEC's help!
With the MEC's help!
03-23-2018, 04:42 AM
#14
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: MD-11
Posts: 395
Originally Posted by Excargodog
The ALPA dues are more and more seeming a questionable investment.
This A-plan conversion to VB plan has Alpo National’s thirst for “fees” written all over it.
The contract language is full of holes, ripe for interpretation because, quite frankly, it is a poorly written legal document. Who’s fault is that? Past NC, MEC, and past attorneys they employed to review the language.
Time to vote Alpo off the property! Time to hire a professional pro-union law firm to represent us!
I expect a lot more precision for my money. And keep your grubby hands off my A-plan!!!!
03-23-2018, 05:30 AM
#15
New Hire
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 5
Shack!
Just rename our rubber-stamping MEC, Politburo, and our stern-lecturing (Goodwill!) MEC Chair, Mao, and you have a homegrown Cultural Revolution. Common sense is being turned on its head for the greater glory of seeing your name in Bloomberg and ALPO enshrining you as the father of the new retirement thinking. The only groups to benefit will be the 25/high 5 who are getting nothing toward retirement now, the dufuses who think they can be their own money managers and "beat' the market, Cheiron, and the other ALPO pilot groups, who will gratefully use our poorly spent dues money to achieve a VB. We even have our own APC Kommsomol featuring a cast of SS trained cheerleaders (Albie, Kronan, FDXLAG, etc.) to convince the new joiners, and lazy that this is for the best. It's a mini-series in the making. Follow the money as those who continue to pass concessions and savings across the table to the company, (SL, PM, etc.) walk in the footsteps of their patron saint, PC, to management cubicle commando once the dust settles and no one is paying attention. It just happened with our former Chair of the Training Committee. Expect KB to be helping Management whittle down our remaining benefits with thoughtful pointers on how to give us less for more. MBO's for everybody!
Just rename our rubber-stamping MEC, Politburo, and our stern-lecturing (Goodwill!) MEC Chair, Mao, and you have a homegrown Cultural Revolution. Common sense is being turned on its head for the greater glory of seeing your name in Bloomberg and ALPO enshrining you as the father of the new retirement thinking. The only groups to benefit will be the 25/high 5 who are getting nothing toward retirement now, the dufuses who think they can be their own money managers and "beat' the market, Cheiron, and the other ALPO pilot groups, who will gratefully use our poorly spent dues money to achieve a VB. We even have our own APC Kommsomol featuring a cast of SS trained cheerleaders (Albie, Kronan, FDXLAG, etc.) to convince the new joiners, and lazy that this is for the best. It's a mini-series in the making. Follow the money as those who continue to pass concessions and savings across the table to the company, (SL, PM, etc.) walk in the footsteps of their patron saint, PC, to management cubicle commando once the dust settles and no one is paying attention. It just happened with our former Chair of the Training Committee. Expect KB to be helping Management whittle down our remaining benefits with thoughtful pointers on how to give us less for more. MBO's for everybody!
Originally Posted by PicklePausePull
The only thing Alpo cares about is your dues money!
This A-plan conversion to VB plan has Alpo National’s thirst for “fees” written all over it.
The contract language is full of holes, ripe for interpretation because, quite frankly, it is a poorly written legal document. Who’s fault is that? Past NC, MEC, and past attorneys they employed to review the language.
Time to vote Alpo off the property! Time to hire a professional pro-union law firm to represent us!
I expect a lot more precision for my money. And keep your grubby hands off my A-plan!!!!
This A-plan conversion to VB plan has Alpo National’s thirst for “fees” written all over it.
The contract language is full of holes, ripe for interpretation because, quite frankly, it is a poorly written legal document. Who’s fault is that? Past NC, MEC, and past attorneys they employed to review the language.
Time to vote Alpo off the property! Time to hire a professional pro-union law firm to represent us!
I expect a lot more precision for my money. And keep your grubby hands off my A-plan!!!!
03-23-2018, 11:38 AM
#16
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 777
Posts: 866
Originally Posted by Encanto
Shack!
Just rename our rubber-stamping MEC, Politburo, and our stern-lecturing (Goodwill!) MEC Chair, Mao, and you have a homegrown Cultural Revolution. Common sense is being turned on its head for the greater glory of seeing your name in Bloomberg and ALPO enshrining you as the father of the new retirement thinking. The only groups to benefit will be the 25/high 5 who are getting nothing toward retirement now, the dufuses who think they can be their own money managers and "beat' the market, Cheiron, and the other ALPO pilot groups, who will gratefully use our poorly spent dues money to achieve a VB. We even have our own APC Kommsomol featuring a cast of SS trained cheerleaders (Albie, Kronan, FDXLAG, etc.) to convince the new joiners, and lazy that this is for the best. It's a mini-series in the making. Follow the money as those who continue to pass concessions and savings across the table to the company, (SL, PM, etc.) walk in the footsteps of their patron saint, PC, to management cubicle commando once the dust settles and no one is paying attention. It just happened with our former Chair of the Training Committee. Expect KB to be helping Management whittle down our remaining benefits with thoughtful pointers on how to give us less for more. MBO's for everybody!
Just rename our rubber-stamping MEC, Politburo, and our stern-lecturing (Goodwill!) MEC Chair, Mao, and you have a homegrown Cultural Revolution. Common sense is being turned on its head for the greater glory of seeing your name in Bloomberg and ALPO enshrining you as the father of the new retirement thinking. The only groups to benefit will be the 25/high 5 who are getting nothing toward retirement now, the dufuses who think they can be their own money managers and "beat' the market, Cheiron, and the other ALPO pilot groups, who will gratefully use our poorly spent dues money to achieve a VB. We even have our own APC Kommsomol featuring a cast of SS trained cheerleaders (Albie, Kronan, FDXLAG, etc.) to convince the new joiners, and lazy that this is for the best. It's a mini-series in the making. Follow the money as those who continue to pass concessions and savings across the table to the company, (SL, PM, etc.) walk in the footsteps of their patron saint, PC, to management cubicle commando once the dust settles and no one is paying attention. It just happened with our former Chair of the Training Committee. Expect KB to be helping Management whittle down our remaining benefits with thoughtful pointers on how to give us less for more. MBO's for everybody!
03-23-2018, 12:11 PM
#17
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,224
Originally Posted by Check 6
Nice 5th post. I may agree with some of your points. But they are lost on me with the childish name calling. How about you make your argument with facts and leave peoples names out of it...? Albie, Kronan FDXLAG et all may have a differing view than yours, but t least they try and stick to what they may consider as facts AKA an argument without the name calling..
03-23-2018, 08:51 PM
#19
Avoiding Memphis
Joined APC: Apr 2005
Position: Intl Feeder Jet
Posts: 504
When was the last time we won an arbitration?
I've been here a while and I would expect that arbitrations would end up about evenly split...you know, since the issue was so close and unclear that we had to go to arbitration.
All I can remember is us getting our axxes handed to us time and time again.
This lie flat/FC beatdown is just another failure.
I've been here a while and I would expect that arbitrations would end up about evenly split...you know, since the issue was so close and unclear that we had to go to arbitration.
All I can remember is us getting our axxes handed to us time and time again.
This lie flat/FC beatdown is just another failure.
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