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Old 04-13-2018 | 08:28 AM
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Whatever the bid processing summary shows you?
Haha.. Didn’t even know that existed. Thanks!!
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Old 04-13-2018 | 08:57 AM
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Haha.. Didn’t even know that existed. Thanks!!
Glad to help, what’s the answer?
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Old 04-13-2018 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Fdxlag2
Glad to help, what’s the answer?
In my case it shows one RA day on each side of my vacation after the slide, extension, and buffer. So didnt drop it all
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Old 04-13-2018 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by manolo1492
So I still hear different opinions on this, if the vacation or slide touch any of my RA days does it drop the entire block of days? Or just the days it touches?
This has never been a possibility (at least since CBA 2006). The only thing that drops an entire block of R-days now is conflict with recurrent training. Vacation/reserve processing is either a one-for-one replacement of V and R days or the extension option. R-days removed due to buffer days are replaced during the reserve line reconstruction process.

Keep in mind, nothing you've done so far is irreversible. You can slide, unslide, extend, un-extend, waive buffers or not as many times as you want to experiment between now and close of the CIC window tomorrow.

Two dangling single R-days left on either side of the vacation may be a good thing if you're on the 777. If not, and you commute, maybe you want to re-slide, waive a buffer(s) or some other option to avoid having single R-days to commute to. The other thing is the 4 R-days removed for the buffers are going back in somewhere and that somewhere may not be the best option for you. Waive the buffers and they stay where they are.

As a commuter, maybe slide the vaca (if possible) to start on the first R-day. That way any R-days left are after your vacation in one or two blocks instead of split into singles. An added bonus is, if your vaca falls before your R-days in the month, all those vaca hours count toward leveling and push you down the list.
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Old 04-13-2018 | 12:38 PM
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An added bonus is, if your vaca falls before your R-days in the month, all those vaca hours count toward leveling and push you down the list.
CBA 2015...vacation leveling is shown regardless of being before or after vacation.

Leaving R days at the beginning of the month is good since most others will have less leveling.

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CBA 2011 “A reserve pilot's leveling position for the remainder of the bid period shall include an R-day value for each day of vacation beginning with his first R-day following his vacation.”

CBA 2015 “A reserve pilot's leveling position shall include an R-day value for each day of vacation in the bid period, as provided in Sec-tion 4 .H .2 .”
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Old 04-13-2018 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyBoyd
CBA 2015...vacation leveling is shown regardless of being before or after vacation.

Leaving R days at the beginning of the month is good since most others will have less leveling.

Applicable verbiage below....
Oops - my bad. Sorry for the bad gouge there, M. Thanks for the correction.
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Old 04-14-2018 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
This has never been a possibility (at least since CBA 2006). The only thing that drops an entire block of R-days now is conflict with recurrent training. Vacation/reserve processing is either a one-for-one replacement of V and R days or the extension option. R-days removed due to buffer days are replaced during the reserve line reconstruction process.

Keep in mind, nothing you've done so far is irreversible. You can slide, unslide, extend, un-extend, waive buffers or not as many times as you want to experiment between now and close of the CIC window tomorrow.

Two dangling single R-days left on either side of the vacation may be a good thing if you're on the 777. If not, and you commute, maybe you want to re-slide, waive a buffer(s) or some other option to avoid having single R-days to commute to. The other thing is the 4 R-days removed for the buffers are going back in somewhere and that somewhere may not be the best option for you. Waive the buffers and they stay where they are.

As a commuter, maybe slide the vaca (if possible) to start on the first R-day. That way any R-days left are after your vacation in one or two blocks instead of split into singles. An added bonus is, if your vaca falls before your R-days in the month, all those vaca hours count toward leveling and push you down the list.
Thanks!! The verdict is out!

So after the window closed, those 2 RA days I had according to bid processing summary (1 day on each side) disappeared. They added one RA day later in the month on the 22nd (9 RA days total), so now I’m off for 22 days in a row which is more than I expected based on the line I had to work with. And the pay summary still shows 85.5. So hopefully I’m done with this horse!, or is there any more gotchas I should worry/need to know about?
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Old 04-14-2018 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by manolo1492
Thanks!! The verdict is out!

So after the window closed, those 2 RA days I had according to bid processing summary (1 day on each side) disappeared. They added one RA day later in the month on the 22nd (9 RA days total), so now I’m off for 22 days in a row which is more than I expected based on the line I had to work with. And the pay summary still shows 85.5. So hopefully I’m done with this horse!, or is there any more gotchas I should worry/need to know about?
I'm not sure I follow the inputs you made in the CIC window. Can you clarify:
What was the make-up of your original R line? Was it a single 19-day block?
Where was day one of vaca after the slide (if you did)?
Did you waive any buffers?

If you had a week of vaca and extended 3 days, ending up with 9 R-days makes sense. I'm trying to understand why you only had one R-day replaced if your entire 10-day extended vaca plus buffers left a single R-day on either end.
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Old 04-14-2018 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
I'm not sure I follow the inputs you made in the CIC window. Can you clarify:
What was the make-up of your original R line? Was it a single 19-day block?
Where was day one of vaca after the slide (if you did)?
Did you waive any buffers?

If you had a week of vaca and extended 3 days, ending up with 9 R-days makes sense. I'm trying to understand why you only had one R-day replaced if your entire 10-day extended vaca plus buffers left a single R-day on either end.
The reserve line was 6 on (starting 30th), 5 off, 5 on, 8 off followed by 2 blocks or 4 RA days with 3 days off in between. I didn’t waive buffer. After I slid one day and extended 3 days to the left my vacation now starts on the 4th RA day (3rd), then add the 2 day buffer to that and left me with one day reserve on the front and one day on the back end initially. I think only one RA day was moved because it now counts that 1st reserve day as vacation, maybe because some of my vacation days fell on days off? Wish I could upload a screenshot of my summary on here but getting some kinda error message
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Old 04-14-2018 | 08:08 AM
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I understand what happened in general. After you slid left one from the 7th to the 6th, you had 5 days off fall under your vacation. Those 5 days had to have corresponding R-days removed. If I understand your original sked correctly, they just counted the 4 buffer days already removed and took the 15th off as well.

What I don't understand is why they moved the Apr 30th single R-day left of your first buffer day to later in the month (i.e. what part of the CBA allowed that). I was under the impression that any original R-days unaffected by vaca or buffers needed to stay in their original place. Maybe there is something about leaving a single R-day that I missed in the CBA that allows them to move it.
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