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#12
UAL offers the chance to drive to work, give family non-rev options, and a handful of domiciles vice being MEM centric. More legs, more block, PBS...all bad. Daylight flying....good or bad....
If I really wanted to fly pax, and lived in/near a domicile, AND had a downside protection (wife job, ANG job, active duty retirement) I might consider UAL. Two of my counselors did for domicile and Q of Life reasons. Commuters---or someone who never wants to look for another job? FedEx is an easy vote. My own experience at FedEx, however, has been incredibly lucrative and largely enjoyable, and I've seen a LOT of the globe as a result. Unless you had a specific reason to want to be a UAL pilot (and there are plenty of good reasons) its hard for me not to recommend FedEx to anyone. Its a very good career. But the financial penalty for going somewhere else is smaller than it was a few years ago as the pax carriers recover from the lost decade and their contracts have rebounded. We have UAL, DAL, and SWA pilots in our classes with some frequency--I think they would be much more qualified than me to offer the goods and others of each respective company. Get both offers...THEN we can talk...
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: B767
Posts: 1,901
Too hard to call. FedEx offers stability, tremendous diversity of fleet, and a long history of solid growth. It offers a lot of chances to bust your butt 10Pm-8 AM as well.
UAL offers the chance to drive to work, give family non-rev options, and a handful of domiciles vice being MEM centric. More legs, more block, PBS...all bad. Daylight flying....good or bad....
If I really wanted to fly pax, and lived in/near a domicile, AND had a downside protection (wife job, ANG job, active duty retirement) I might consider UAL. Two of my counselors did for domicile and Q of Life reasons. Commuters---or someone who never wants to look for another job? FedEx is an easy vote. My own experience at FedEx, however, has been incredibly lucrative and largely enjoyable, and I've seen a LOT of the globe as a result. Unless you had a specific reason to want to be a UAL pilot (and there are plenty of good reasons) its hard for me not to recommend FedEx to anyone. Its a very good career. But the financial penalty for going somewhere else is smaller than it was a few years ago as the pax carriers recover from the lost decade and their contracts have rebounded. We have UAL, DAL, and SWA pilots in our classes with some frequency--I think they would be much more qualified than me to offer the goods and others of each respective company. Get both offers...THEN we can talk...
UAL offers the chance to drive to work, give family non-rev options, and a handful of domiciles vice being MEM centric. More legs, more block, PBS...all bad. Daylight flying....good or bad....
If I really wanted to fly pax, and lived in/near a domicile, AND had a downside protection (wife job, ANG job, active duty retirement) I might consider UAL. Two of my counselors did for domicile and Q of Life reasons. Commuters---or someone who never wants to look for another job? FedEx is an easy vote. My own experience at FedEx, however, has been incredibly lucrative and largely enjoyable, and I've seen a LOT of the globe as a result. Unless you had a specific reason to want to be a UAL pilot (and there are plenty of good reasons) its hard for me not to recommend FedEx to anyone. Its a very good career. But the financial penalty for going somewhere else is smaller than it was a few years ago as the pax carriers recover from the lost decade and their contracts have rebounded. We have UAL, DAL, and SWA pilots in our classes with some frequency--I think they would be much more qualified than me to offer the goods and others of each respective company. Get both offers...THEN we can talk...
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: MD-11
Posts: 395
Too hard to call. FedEx offers stability, tremendous diversity of fleet, and a long history of solid growth. It offers a lot of chances to bust your butt 10Pm-8 AM as well.
UAL offers the chance to drive to work, give family non-rev options, and a handful of domiciles vice being MEM centric. More legs, more block, PBS...all bad. Daylight flying....good or bad....
If I really wanted to fly pax, and lived in/near a domicile, AND had a downside protection (wife job, ANG job, active duty retirement) I might consider UAL. Two of my counselors did for domicile and Q of Life reasons. Commuters---or someone who never wants to look for another job? FedEx is an easy vote. My own experience at FedEx, however, has been incredibly lucrative and largely enjoyable, and I've seen a LOT of the globe as a result. Unless you had a specific reason to want to be a UAL pilot (and there are plenty of good reasons) its hard for me not to recommend FedEx to anyone. Its a very good career. But the financial penalty for going somewhere else is smaller than it was a few years ago as the pax carriers recover from the lost decade and their contracts have rebounded. We have UAL, DAL, and SWA pilots in our classes with some frequency--I think they would be much more qualified than me to offer the goods and others of each respective company. Get both offers...THEN we can talk...
UAL offers the chance to drive to work, give family non-rev options, and a handful of domiciles vice being MEM centric. More legs, more block, PBS...all bad. Daylight flying....good or bad....
If I really wanted to fly pax, and lived in/near a domicile, AND had a downside protection (wife job, ANG job, active duty retirement) I might consider UAL. Two of my counselors did for domicile and Q of Life reasons. Commuters---or someone who never wants to look for another job? FedEx is an easy vote. My own experience at FedEx, however, has been incredibly lucrative and largely enjoyable, and I've seen a LOT of the globe as a result. Unless you had a specific reason to want to be a UAL pilot (and there are plenty of good reasons) its hard for me not to recommend FedEx to anyone. Its a very good career. But the financial penalty for going somewhere else is smaller than it was a few years ago as the pax carriers recover from the lost decade and their contracts have rebounded. We have UAL, DAL, and SWA pilots in our classes with some frequency--I think they would be much more qualified than me to offer the goods and others of each respective company. Get both offers...THEN we can talk...
A better comparison, I think, would be FDX and Delta. But UAL is not your father's United. It is Continental management, flight scheds, etc.
#16
Still open time in th MD FO seat. It’s always a free-for-all on open time night and then for the next 1-2 days as folks rebuild their entire schedules. I’ve only flown a handful of assigned trips this year. My wife doesn’t care what I get awarded since she knows it’ll ALL change within a few days of open time release.
#17
It’s a slow transitional process. There will be opportunities along the way.
#18
One among several reasons I chose UPS over Fedex. Fedex has hired almost 30% of their seniority list since 2015. UPS likes to run lean, way behind hiring, much better opportunity to move up faster.Schedules, lines, all very similar. Yes, Fedex did not furlough (in case anyone is going there), but this is a much different time.
Fedex is a great job and a great company, no doubt whatsoever. It simply a cycle issue.
Fedex is a great job and a great company, no doubt whatsoever. It simply a cycle issue.
1) Never seen a New Hire get to pick any airplane he desires. Happened plenty last year.
2) 2-3 year Captain Upgrades.
3) Guys progressing in-seat Seniority at an unprecedented rate.
New Hire buddy will be in the top 25% 75 FO within 18 months of being hired.
Dude sat 3 Days of Reserve and was then holding a regular line with layovers at home.
The Bold statement above sounds more like stagnation than movement. But that does usually provide Premium Pay opportunities when running lean.
Last edited by Thrust Hold; 07-12-2018 at 01:26 PM.
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