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08-25-2019 | 02:31 PM
#31
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Regulated flight time limits add a wrinkle to this argument that makes it go far beyond just a personal choice to load your monthly schedule with non-FedEx flying.
You're a full-time employee at an airline that expects you to be available to fly a normal schedule unless you're on LTD, vaca, training, sick, etc. Adult or not, you have no way of knowing if extra flying you do on the side is going to create an issue at the end of the month when your schedule gets revised and suddenly you have extra block hours you weren't counting on. Same with annual limits. Why do you expect FedEx to ignore potential scenarios that may result in you having to make a phone call to skeds telling them you've timed out?
You're a full-time employee at an airline that expects you to be available to fly a normal schedule unless you're on LTD, vaca, training, sick, etc. Adult or not, you have no way of knowing if extra flying you do on the side is going to create an issue at the end of the month when your schedule gets revised and suddenly you have extra block hours you weren't counting on. Same with annual limits. Why do you expect FedEx to ignore potential scenarios that may result in you having to make a phone call to skeds telling them you've timed out?
08-25-2019 | 02:52 PM
#32
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Please stop chiming in as if you’re a Fedex pilot. You are not and it’s painfully obvious to the rest of us. “Pick up OT to FAA limits”?! Wtf are you even talking about? I presume you’re trying to make some remark on MU banks but you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about, per usual. Nothing about picking up OT at FDX has anything to do with going to FAR flight hour limits. I won’t bother to clarify for you. If you ever come to work here it will become nice and clear for you then.
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08-25-2019 | 04:54 PM
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That's not how I remembered it. There were guys that were hassled before 4a2b for taking long term MLA, but once 4a2b hit, they were encouraging guys to try to get long term MLA orders from their units. Very bi-polar of them, of course, but none of my friends who took MLOA in the 4a2b times got hassled. They actually got thanked (although the year previous, they got a talking to... go figure).
MLA when mgt wants it is OK.
MLA when pilot need it, it's time to harass them.
08-25-2019 | 06:20 PM
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Please stop chiming in as if you’re a Fedex pilot. You are not and it’s painfully obvious to the rest of us. “Pick up OT to FAA limits”?! Wtf are you even talking about? I presume you’re trying to make some remark on MU banks but you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about, per usual. Nothing about picking up OT at FDX has anything to do with going to FAR flight hour limits. I won’t bother to clarify for you. If you ever come to work here it will become nice and clear for you then.
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My point is one should be allowed to fly to FAR limits if one chooses to do so.
08-25-2019 | 08:01 PM
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SMFH, I’m very much familiar with our contract as it pertains to picking up OT. MU is completely different than picking up OT. As of right now we can pick up no more that 6hrs of OT per month except if you have MU time.
My point is one should be allowed to fly to FAR limits if one chooses to do so.
My point is one should be allowed to fly to FAR limits if one chooses to do so.
Oh, so you’re a Fedex pilot? My bad. Go ahead and PM me your employee number and I’ll look you up in VIPS and send you a text. Or if you prefer I can PM you mine and you can contact me. Why do I feel like you’re gonna balk at this?
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08-26-2019 | 03:34 AM
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Go right ahead and PM me yours.
08-26-2019 | 04:35 AM
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I see a lot of guys sucking up extra flying like it is candy. Surprisingly, the guys who work 20+ days a month seem to be the newer guys who are going to fix our contract. Yeah, that's what we need, for the company to be able to work us more.
08-26-2019 | 05:41 AM
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Wait, you complain that guys are flying until age 65. Now you say that you should be able to fly to FAR limits. So, should a pilot be able to work as much and as long as they want, or is it only what is best for you right now?
I see a lot of guys sucking up extra flying like it is candy. Surprisingly, the guys who work 20+ days a month seem to be the newer guys who are going to fix our contract. Yeah, that's what we need, for the company to be able to work us more.
I see a lot of guys sucking up extra flying like it is candy. Surprisingly, the guys who work 20+ days a month seem to be the newer guys who are going to fix our contract. Yeah, that's what we need, for the company to be able to work us more.
08-26-2019 | 05:54 AM
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That's not how I remembered it. There were guys that were hassled before 4a2b for taking long term MLA, but once 4a2b hit, they were encouraging guys to try to get long term MLA orders from their units. Very bi-polar of them, of course, but none of my friends who took MLOA in the 4a2b times got hassled. They actually got thanked (although the year previous, they got a talking to... go figure).
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