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08-29-2019, 01:52 PM
#62
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Seems short sided to take a contract job paying 2k or less per day and risking a career at FedEx.
09-01-2019, 11:11 AM
#63
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Originally Posted by FDXpilot
What happens if you get violated at the contractor job and lose your license, after FedEx has spent millions training you?
Do you think they should allow that risk? It's called risk mitigation. They don't want you to do anything outside of work that will cost them. Hence appendix S.
Do you think they should allow that risk? It's called risk mitigation. They don't want you to do anything outside of work that will cost them. Hence appendix S.
This can happen doing any kind of recreational flying. So that is not a valid reason.
Originally Posted by FDXpilot
Ah I see what the problem is. It's not about what the pilot wants, it's all about what FedEx wants.
Strictly my opinion, but if you can't get by on a FedEx pilots salary alone, then you have severely done it wrong. If you want a side hustle, there are much more profitable ways to go about it that don't require flying.
Strictly my opinion, but if you can't get by on a FedEx pilots salary alone, then you have severely done it wrong. If you want a side hustle, there are much more profitable ways to go about it that don't require flying.
Maybe they can get by. Maybe they just want to because America?
09-27-2019, 03:53 PM
#64
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Originally Posted by HIFLYR
I agree but I personally thought during 4A2B we should have been able to supplement our income with our earned license's. It would be simple to just make it a termination offense to exceed time limits by doing outside flying or missing a FedEx trip. I would think exceeding regulated limits is really only a real problem on two airframes the MD and 777, but could be wrong.
09-27-2019, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy
Thats the big reason to do things correctly and get ANY outside flying approved , leave of absence keeps you from busting duty and putting the company in a bad spot , you cannot get paid to work at Fedex and moonlight flying the other side , only exception is military duty
09-27-2019, 05:07 PM
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I may have dreamed this up, and I'm too lazy to research it, but I'm pretty sure that part 91 flying (corporate pilot) does not count against FAR 121 duty limits. It's operating under the same rules as the guy that has a 172 that he flies on the weekends......
Obviously flying under part 135/charter rules would be a different story.
Obviously flying under part 135/charter rules would be a different story.
09-27-2019, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dspilot
I may have dreamed this up, and I'm too lazy to research it, but I'm pretty sure that part 91 flying (corporate pilot) does not count against FAR 121 duty limits. It's operating under the same rules as the guy that has a 172 that he flies on the weekends......
Obviously flying under part 135/charter rules would be a different story.
Obviously flying under part 135/charter rules would be a different story.
09-27-2019, 05:40 PM
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FAR 121.471
§ 121.471 Flight time limitations and rest requirements: All flight crewmembers.
(a) No certificate holder conducting domestic operations may schedule any flight crewmember and no flight crewmember may accept an assignment for flight time in scheduled air transportation or in other commercial flying if that crewmember's total flight time in all commercial flying will exceed -
(1) 1,000 hours in any calendar year;
(2) 100 hours in any calendar month;
(3) 30 hours in any 7 consecutive days;
(4) 8 hours between required rest periods.
§ 121.471 Flight time limitations and rest requirements: All flight crewmembers.
(a) No certificate holder conducting domestic operations may schedule any flight crewmember and no flight crewmember may accept an assignment for flight time in scheduled air transportation or in other commercial flying if that crewmember's total flight time in all commercial flying will exceed -
(1) 1,000 hours in any calendar year;
(2) 100 hours in any calendar month;
(3) 30 hours in any 7 consecutive days;
(4) 8 hours between required rest periods.
09-27-2019, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs
FAR 121.471
§ 121.471 Flight time limitations and rest requirements: All flight crewmembers.
(a) No certificate holder conducting domestic operations may schedule any flight crewmember and no flight crewmember may accept an assignment for flight time in scheduled air transportation or in other commercial flying if that crewmember's total flight time in all commercial flying will exceed -
(1) 1,000 hours in any calendar year;
(2) 100 hours in any calendar month;
(3) 30 hours in any 7 consecutive days;
(4) 8 hours between required rest periods.
§ 121.471 Flight time limitations and rest requirements: All flight crewmembers.
(a) No certificate holder conducting domestic operations may schedule any flight crewmember and no flight crewmember may accept an assignment for flight time in scheduled air transportation or in other commercial flying if that crewmember's total flight time in all commercial flying will exceed -
(1) 1,000 hours in any calendar year;
(2) 100 hours in any calendar month;
(3) 30 hours in any 7 consecutive days;
(4) 8 hours between required rest periods.
09-28-2019, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs
FAR 121.471
§ 121.471 Flight time limitations and rest requirements: All flight crewmembers.
(a) No certificate holder conducting domestic operations may schedule any flight crewmember and no flight crewmember may accept an assignment for flight time in scheduled air transportation or in other commercial flying if that crewmember's total flight time in all commercial flying will exceed -
(1) 1,000 hours in any calendar year;
(2) 100 hours in any calendar month;
(3) 30 hours in any 7 consecutive days;
(4) 8 hours between required rest periods.
§ 121.471 Flight time limitations and rest requirements: All flight crewmembers.
(a) No certificate holder conducting domestic operations may schedule any flight crewmember and no flight crewmember may accept an assignment for flight time in scheduled air transportation or in other commercial flying if that crewmember's total flight time in all commercial flying will exceed -
(1) 1,000 hours in any calendar year;
(2) 100 hours in any calendar month;
(3) 30 hours in any 7 consecutive days;
(4) 8 hours between required rest periods.
This should of been stated and cleared up during last CBA. Anytime 4A2B is in effect we are allowed to outside flying as long as its documented and doesnt interfere with fedex flying.
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