StarClipper

That’s the notification I got. I think they posted AVA as a scapegoat to deny trip trades and drops

Noworkallplay

Tons of guys getting draft. Numerous buds on MD and triple killing it last 2 months.

PurpleToolBox

I've tried like crazy and live in Memphis and I haven't been able to pickup anything. In fact, while I was in theater, with a deadhead back home, I called scheduling and asked to be extended -- and they said "oh ok" and never heard back.

Tuck

It's a mathematical formula guys - read the contract. 2 reserves to cover every trip in open time to allow any BLAs. You don't have any idea of reserve future forecaster or what they have plugged in for AVA (there are plenty of guys in SUB these days as well keep in mind)

Stan446

And in 2021, when the contract is open, we'll get F'd again. If guys would stop flying extra, we'd have leverage.

Nightflyer

We had leverage last time and the union pi$$ed it away, so what difference does it really make?

They were canceling flights for lack of crews, and the union leadership still dropped the ball.

PurpleToolBox

You CAN'T fly extra at straight time. You can only go what 6 hours above your BLG. These are people who have some type of make up.

Maybe I am wrong. Explain how you fly at straight time above your BLG.

pinseeker

I'll give it a shot.

Protecting carry-over and not protecting min days off. I know of pilots that bid max carry-over, and then bid to protect that carry-over and fly a full next month. These pilots can have as little as 6 days off.

Selling back max vacation. This is giving up paid days off so that you can work more and get paid for days that you could have had off. Selling back vacation is just like working extra IMO.

Yes, both of these are allowed in the contract. However, the company then goes to the NC and says why do pilots need so many min days off? Look at how much they work voluntarily. The same can be said with our vacation.


Edit: I'll add that yes, you can pick up a trip worth only 6 hours if you don't have a make-up bank, but you can trade a trip for up to 12 hours more than the trip was worth. If you do both, that is an additional 18 hours without a make-up bank. Then you add the items I posted above.

PurpleToolBox

Agree. Completely. However, with 40, 50, 80+CH trips on the 777, the majority of those trips aren't being picked up liked that. There are very few people that I find that have stocked schedules like that.

The reality is, ever since C2015 and being short of pilots, this company decided to plus up on manning. There was a PFC news article about the board of directors approving this immediately after C2015. I have gone back several times trying to find that article and I can't. But I know I am not making it up.

Before C2015 I was getting called for draft every morning, afternoon and evening. After we passed C2015 and hiring started, by that next summer I've only had two phone calls for draft in the last 4-5 years.

Nightflyer

And they said we didn't have leverage....