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Old 03-26-2020, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FishingMoney View Post
1. Yes. You’ll be required to provide a copy of your resignation letter to one of the HR folks who briefs you during BI. For my class, it was at the beginning of the second week. I believe they’ve since changed the BI structure but the requirement remains.

2. I know this won’t fully answer your question but after quickly perusing the Apr bidpack awards you are looking at 13-15 months before you can hold that on the 75 (which would likely be your assigned platform) so the specifics may be moot.

Really feel for our brothers and sisters dealing with the uncertainty on the pax side. If FDX is truly your first choice, jump and never look back.

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Appreciate the response FM.
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Old 03-26-2020, 12:05 PM
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Do you commute now? Where would you be commuting from if you went to FedEx?
I don’t commute at the moment. With FedEx, I’d likely be commuting from PHL.
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Old 03-26-2020, 12:29 PM
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Hello all, longtime lurker, first time poster. Last year I received CJOs for both a major pax airline and FDX, and although FDX was my first choice at the time, I decided to take the one who offered the first class (PAX airline) and push the decision off if/when FDX offered a class. With FDX starting classes up again, it looks like that decision will need to be made soon. I have a couple questions hoping someone could shed some light on:

1. There’s a real potential I’ll be furloughed from my current airline for obvious reasons. Should that happen, and I subsequently start with FDX, will FDX likely require me to officially resign my previous job even though I’m furloughed?

2. I’ve searched and read through all of the schedule-related threads in this forum, but I couldn’t find any examples of the bid packs. As a commuter, I’m most interested in seeing what a domestic week on/week off schedule of a lineholder would look like for a 4 and 5 week month. Would anyone be willing to post or PM me a picture of some examples of that type of schedule? That would be really helpful for my caveman brain, but also so I could show the wife what my schedule would/could look like someday.

Thanks for any help, hoping to call purple home sometime this year!
Hey Robert, I understand the pinch your in however, don't think for a minute that no one saw this coming for the passenger airlines. Most didn't see the virus but many saw something that would create a recession. This always kills the pax airlines. Look back on history to understand the future. Global and local (US) events will happen. They historically killed pax airlines for long periods of times. Not so much cargo like currently. That is followed by short periods of great prosperity for pax airlines and then the cycle starts again. I was at 2 pax airlines prior to FDX. I would never go back. This event WILL hurt the pax market for quite some time. I hope this adds some helpful information. I would happily resign from my legacy airline job again no questions asked. Its crazy the things you will hear guys a FDX complain about compared to where you are now. Our pilots complain about not enough draft and bigger pensions. We complain about problems no one else has because they don't exist at other places. Its a good problem to have.
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Old 03-26-2020, 12:30 PM
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Jeez guys, I think you are being a bit harsh. In life, you never want to burn any bridges unless you have to. It’s COMPLETELY reasonable to ask the question and it’s COMPLETELY reasonable to not resign if you don’t have to. Even if FedEx is your number one choice. It’s not being entitled. It’s being prudent.
At the expense of others in the same situation.
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Old 03-26-2020, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RobertTP View Post
Hello all, longtime lurker, first time poster. Last year I received CJOs for both a major pax airline and FDX, and although FDX was my first choice at the time, I decided to take the one who offered the first class (PAX airline) and push the decision off if/when FDX offered a class. With FDX starting classes up again, it looks like that decision will need to be made soon. I have a couple questions hoping someone could shed some light on:

1. There’s a real potential I’ll be furloughed from my current airline for obvious reasons. Should that happen, and I subsequently start with FDX, will FDX likely require me to officially resign my previous job even though I’m furloughed?

2. I’ve searched and read through all of the schedule-related threads in this forum, but I couldn’t find any examples of the bid packs. As a commuter, I’m most interested in seeing what a domestic week on/week off schedule of a lineholder would look like for a 4 and 5 week month. Would anyone be willing to post or PM me a picture of some examples of that type of schedule? That would be really helpful for my caveman brain, but also so I could show the wife what my schedule would/could look like someday.

Thanks for any help, hoping to call purple home sometime this year!

You’re in a good spot. We have many pilots at FedEx who were furloughed from United, American (Airways), etc., who never went back when offered recall. So, they started Basic Indoc at FedEx while furloughed. So they were actually hired and the company knew they were furloughed. In your case, you’re already in the pool. If you’re furloughed before getting a GS date, no need to resign from previous job. As I think you’ve mentioned, if you get a GS date prior to furlough, then you’ve got a big decision to make. You’ve got options, though, and that’s a good thing.
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:10 PM
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One of the biggest advantages of working for FedEx (in my opinion) can be gleaned from the following thought experiment:

1) Envision a scenario in which the pax airlines are struggling and a pilot employed there would be looking at months to years of lost or reduced wages. How likely is it that this scenario will occur in your career timespan, and/or how many times will a scenario like this occur? Not difficult to imagine, as we’re in such a scenario right now. It seems that in recent history these types of events occur about once every 8-12 years.

2) While holding the conditions envisioned in (1) constant, what would be the impact on pilots employed at FedEx. Don’t kid yourself, FedEx isn’t bulletproof, but their business does respond differently to macro events, as we’re seeing now.

3) Finally, can you envision a scenario where your job would be MORE secure at a pax airline than it would be at FedEx (or UPS)? Certainly poor business management leading to bankruptcy might be such a scenario, but how likely is this to occur during your career, based on the knowledge you have right now?
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:50 PM
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In the past guys have resigned seniority number at Major and their CP puts that letter in a special file that doesnt really exist with HR. not sure if that still operates that way but...
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Old 03-26-2020, 02:00 PM
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At the expense of others in the same situation.

Not following...how is that at the expense of others in the same situation? He is already passed the interview and earned a spot in the pool before those behind him in the pool. Those ahead of him that are currently employed somewhere else have the same exact decision to make as him.

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Old 03-26-2020, 02:04 PM
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Not following...how is that at the expense of others in the same situation?
He feels that somewhere a pilot may not get a seniority number because this guy is hogging a seniority number while furloughed and one at FedEx. Makes emotional not logical sense.
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