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Old 03-26-2020 | 05:46 PM
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So, they started Basic Indoc at FedEx while furloughed. So they were actually hired and the company knew they were furloughed. In your case, you’re already in the pool. If you’re furloughed before getting a GS date, no need to resign from previous job..
I’m not sure where you got your information from but it’s incorrect. Anyone hired at FedEx from a major airline whether they’re furloughed or still a current employee will have to submit a letter of resignation.
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Old 03-26-2020 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
I’m not sure where you got your information from but it’s incorrect. Anyone hired at FedEx from a major airline whether they’re furloughed or still a current employee will have to submit a letter of resignation.

True. They took this very seriously during BI.
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Old 03-26-2020 | 08:15 PM
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I appreciate the info/discussion on the first question all. It sounds like regardless I’ll need to submit a resignation letter, which closes a door but so be it.
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Old 03-26-2020 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
I’m not sure where you got your information from but it’s incorrect. Anyone hired at FedEx from a major airline whether they’re furloughed or still a current employee will have to submit a letter of resignation.
you're actually both right. He would have to resign, but historically the carriers would not recognize the letter of resignation and maintain recall rights.

The difference in this situation versus the thousands of post 9/11 guys is the OP has yet to be furloughed, and FedEx will likely call with a class before that happens.
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Old 03-27-2020 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Moosefire
The difference in this situation versus the thousands of post 9/11 guys is the OP has yet to be furloughed, and FedEx will likely call with a class before that happens.
I’m not talking about what his former employer chooses to do. I’m saying his status as a current employee or a furloughee makes no difference to FedEx. They will expect a letter of resignation on day one of BI, regardless of whether someone is furloughed or is voluntarily leaving their current employer.
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Old 03-27-2020 | 04:33 AM
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The reality is that if you are furloughed and submit a letter of resignation to your employer, that letter will almost certainly be ignored and you will be recalled when the furlough is over. That's what happened to me and plenty of my co-workers who were post-9/11 furloughees. My legacy airline called although I submitted a letter of resignation to them.

If you resign before you are furloughed... who knows what your employer ill do with that under the circumstances.

But, I'll tell you what happened in the mid-2005s here with the hiring. For quite a long time, FedEx refused to even entertain hiring a pilot furloughed from a legacy airline (except USAir... which was an odd exception). They were screwed during the furlough of the 1990s when they had hired a raft of furloughed legacy pilots, only to have them leave in droves when recalled. They then held that grudge for a long time, with good reason. They didn't want the same thing to happen again to them in the mid-2000s when all their newly hired pilots left again. So that prohibition held for a long time until about 2005 when they lifted the ban on furloughed legacy pilots and started allowing them to be interviewed and hired.

So, what I'm trying to say is, think about your decision. It won't only affect you, but generations of pilots who follow you.

As an aside, UPS had the same type of issue. I interviewed with them before I interviewed with FedEx. Three-quarters of the HR interview was asking me what I was going to do when my legacy airline called me back. Almost accusatory, not believing me when I told them I wouldn't go back. At FedEx, my furlough didn't come up one time during the interview. I didn't get hired at UPS. I'm glad I'm here and I'm glad I stayed.
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Old 03-27-2020 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
Why wouldn't you resign if you left the company you are furloughed from. I'm pretty sure FedEx is going to want a letter. If you are thinking of just coming to FedEx to see how it is and then leave if you don't like it, then you are really screwing guys who really want to work at FedEx.
United cancelled a class 3 days prior after everyone had put in their 2 weeks notice and left their current employer. UPS pulled a similar stunt a few years ago.

BL - you shouldn’t fault the OP for covering his bases. These are uncharted waters. Fly safe, deuces.
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Old 03-27-2020 | 05:50 PM
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BL - you shouldn’t fault the OP for covering his bases. These are uncharted waters. Fly safe, deuces.[/QUOTE]

Covering his bases? I guess, having the option to go back to United is covering his bases. While, other people with no job to go back to would love to get hired by a major airline. Its a douche move to think you really don't have to resign and have to option to go back. And FedEx got burned by guys that supposedly resigned and then left FedEx to go back. Have the balls to make a choice and stick with it. Sad to see our society has become, "Its all about me". I doubt in the coming times FedEx is even going to have to look at furloughed mainline guys. There will be plenty of regional people who will be looking for a job.
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Old 03-27-2020 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Stan446

Covering his bases? I guess, having the option to go back to United is covering his bases. While, other people with no job to go back to would love to get hired by a major airline. Its a douche move to think you really don't have to resign and have to option to go back. And FedEx got burned by guys that supposedly resigned and then left FedEx to go back. Have the balls to make a choice and stick with it. Sad to see our society has become, "Its all about me". I doubt in the coming times FedEx is even going to have to look at furloughed mainline guys. There will be plenty of regional people who will be looking for a job.

It’s not an all about me thing. It’s just simply prudent and the smart thing to do if you have the choice. It isn’t some malicious act. It’s not something to take personal.
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Old 03-28-2020 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
Covering his bases? I guess, having the option to go back to United is covering his bases. While, other people with no job to go back to would love to get hired by a major airline. Its a douche move to think you really don't have to resign and have to option to go back. And FedEx got burned by guys that supposedly resigned and then left FedEx to go back. Have the balls to make a choice and stick with it. Sad to see our society has become, "Its all about me". I doubt in the coming times FedEx is even going to have to look at furloughed mainline guys. There will be plenty of regional people who will be looking for a job.
First, there is no "supposedly resigned." People resigned. Their employer decided to ignore that letter and recall furloughed employees. That's a nice touch. But don't think for a minute that any corporation whether it be a FedEx or a legacy airline will shed a tear if or when they have to furlough thousands of employees. It had better be "all about me" because if you have some misplaced thought of allegiance to your employer, you are in for a rude awakening. Why don't the airlines "have some balls to make a choice" of employing a pilot and "stick with it."

Do you know how FedEx can ensure that the furloughed legacy pilots don't leave here when they are recalled? Make this place better than someone's former employer so they don't want to leave. That's how.
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