People keep trying to extrapolate the scenario into situations I'm not talking about. I was clear in my last response to Starclipper what scenario I'm talking about. It's not a Navy guy coming here and deciding to go somewhere else. It's not the guy who comes here legitimately thinking this is his last airline even as a furloughee with every intention of staying who eventually decides it's not for him. I said that many posts back. It's a business decision. It happens.

I am responding to the scenario Starclipper brought up when he decided it's pathetic to expect a little integrity from our new hires:
Someone who comes here knowing that they are going to submit a letter of resignation under false pretenses during FedEx BI and take a recall to their old job is not acting in good faith and I have a problem with that. Making that choice will most likely remove the option for anyone else to come here as a furloughed pilot in the future. You obviously don't have a problem with that or the potential to work with someone whose word and integrity are worth nothing. To each his own.
But that is the ONE AND ONLY issue I have. So, you can stop responding and coming up with all kinds of additional "what about this" scenarios and get yourself all in a dither. It's about honesty plain and simple. You either get that or you don't.

 

These guys might just be trying to pay their bills and support their family like everyone else. Are they supposed to stay unemployed until they get recalled? These companies will adapt as guys come and go. I didn’t hear any of that integrity stuff not to long ago when guy on hear were advising other to take the first class date until the get their Majic call to the company of their choice.

 

So, it's okay to lie if someone is trying to pay bills or support their family? In my world view, hardship doesn't suddenly give someone carte blanche to throw their integrity out the window and do whatever it takes. Maybe they have to take a different job until their recall. And once again you're trying to equate taking a job and then quitting to move on to a better one (or one that suits you better) with being furloughed and falsely resigning with the intention of returning when recalled. THOSE TWO SITUATIONS ARE NOT THE SAME!! Are you intentionally ignoring the difference or is reading comprehension really a struggle for you? Look, you and I disagree. That's that. You're never going to convince me that it's acceptable to lie to FedEx or any employer and submit a false document with no intention of complying with it. So, let's just call it. This horse died several posts back.

 

I hope FedEx continues to interview all eligible candidates regardless of furlough status.

If we train someone and they leave, it is costly. No doubt about it. But I don't think many are going to leave in the current and ongoing economic milieu.

We have built a company that I would desire to come to as a caboose, even now. And I'll try to keep it that way.

 

I can't see us hiring this year. Things are changing dramatically every day. It was just recently when Mr. Smith said on national news he sees a 'V' recovery - I don't think he, or anyone else, believes that anymore. We had to backfill HKG which I was surprised they did it anyways as the future of that base is going to be way up in the air. Hate to be bearer of bad news but I don't see a major hiring for quite awhile.

 

This was going to be my question. Are the freight carriers still hiring? And if so, how long until they stop and possibly furlough? As the global recession deepens and it becomes less like that the economies will just recover back to normal, it seems to me that it's just a matter of time before it spreads to freight. If millions of people in the US are out of work and businesses obviously reduce their output and some even close up, this would have an affect on all freight transportation modes.

 

I love the “Doom and Gloom” scenarios. No one knows. There’s no data to support any theories. You can speculate this or that, but doom and gloom sells copies of Newsweek, WSJ and whatever Network Cable you want to watch. It’s all about the spike in NYC and the possibility of some sort of treatment until a vaccine is developed.

-Bubs

 

My guess is UPS and Fedex will be furloughing by fall if this keeps up much longer. Fred Smith already appears to be circling the wagons. It's only a matter of time before the broader economy catches up to us too. Definitely in a better position than pax carriers but its headed this way too.

 

Easy, man.

 

History has shown that UPS furloughs and brings in management pilots to furlough deeper. FedEx takes a collective contractual reduction in Monthly Guarantees.