Originally Posted by Stan446

The point is the furloughed guy doesn't want to give up his job. He want's to get hired away from one of the major pax carriers. See if that works, an then when he can get recalled, never giving up his mainline seniority number, stealing a seniority number from his temp worker and basically fing everyone. And figure it out, there are now plumber seniority numbers.

And the dick the the other guy mentality goes on. What if it was you hoping to get a job to support your family while someone else held two spots. Try telling your kids why you have to move because someone holds two jobs.

Originally Posted by Adlerdriver

I think we're saying the same thing. Of course you can't determine intentions. But if a pilot wants to be at FedEx but gets hired at airline X first, maybe he decides to stay and moves on with his life. However, if events conspire to put him on the street and he ends up at FedEx as part of plan B, I don't see anything wrong with that - As long as he stays. As I said, I see a difference between the guy that's just looking for a paycheck until his first airline calls him back and a guy who genuinely wants to be here now or that had FedEx as his first choice all along. The first guy is going to bail on FedEx when the grass turns back to green at his first airline while the other guy will probably be happier here and stay no matter what because he wouldn't have put us at the top of his list to start with without recognizing the value we're all experiencing yet again within 20 year of the last sh!t storm.

Originally Posted by FXLAX

Are you saying you would hold it against a furloughed pilot who comes here for a paycheck if their intention when coming here is to go back? Would you begrudge an unemployed pilot a paycheck he earned by getting through the interview and training process?

Originally Posted by StarClipper

All we are at any of these companies is a seniority number, nothing more. They will get rid of you if they have to at anytime for any reason. I think it’s pathetic to think that a furloughed pilot coming here and holding a seniority number is being unethical or lacks integrity because he has intentions of going back. How about the guys who go elsewhere while waiting for FedEX to call them? Is that lack of integrity also? Who you tell you son, daughter or friends don’t go to the Majors while the wait on FedEX because it’s not right?
How about the company hold itself to a level of ethics and integrity by adhering to CBA language, enhancing the A Plan as it was negotiated, etc etc etc.

Originally Posted by Adlerdriver

I said as much in my post to which you responded. I would begrudge him that because by doing so, he would be ensuring that no other furloughed pilots had the option to come here and stay. It took FedEx a long time to start hiring furloughed pilots after they were screwed over by a bunch in the 1990s. Additionally, he obviously would be asked about his intentions in his FedEx interview, so in addition to being selfish he’d be a liar. He can go get his temporary paycheck somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Adlerdriver

Using the company’s or someone else’s lack of integrity to justify similar behavior is a pretty weak argument.

Also, I’m not talking about a career progression involving multiple airlines. The scenario in question is simple and not nuanced. A furloughed pilot comes to FedEx, falsely signs and delivers a letter of resignation during BI, with every intention to leave when he is recalled.That’s it, no other offshoots or tangents of that scenario, just that.
Do you really think someone having a problem with that obvious lack of integrity is pathetic?

Originally Posted by Adlerdriver

Using the company’s or someone else’s lack of integrity to justify similar behavior is a pretty weak argument.

Also, I’m not talking about a career progression involving multiple airlines. The scenario in question is simple and not nuanced. A furloughed pilot comes to FedEx, falsely signs and delivers a letter of resignation during BI, with every intention to leave when he is recalled.That’s it, no other offshoots or tangents of that scenario, just that.
Do you really think someone having a problem with that obvious lack of integrity is pathetic?