fly2ski

Nailed it Sluggo, the truth hurts!

kronan

There are only so many FedEx jobs\seniority numbers.

The implied intention here is to come to FedEx for a year or two until the OP can return to his mainline job.
The why should I have to resign just to be hired at FedEx mindset.

No one truly owes any obligation to another pilot seeking employment, but, IMO-it's an interesting display of a lack of integrity.

There's a whole slew of pilots hoping for just One big airline Seniority number.

Definitely not an easy situation, but I sure didn't get the impression the OP was just biding his time at his mainline gig before being able to switch over to FedEx

kronan

I mean, there's the whole, of course FedEx was my #1 Choice...but what does the flying work schedule look like.

There's been countless posts of what a typical week of FedEx flying looks like domestically.
What commutes are like from various cities.
What double DH's look like, and the bennies of accumulating miles.

The joys of Intl flying, and perhaps being Senior enough to be a psuedo Pro-RFO with all of the FF miles just loading up. Guys with Elite status on a couple of different airlines

FXLAX

This whole situation is really simple. The smart thing to do is to not resign if you don’t have to. If you resign when you are not required to, it may say a lot of good things, but its also not as smart as not resigning until you have to.

I certainly wouldn’t begrudge ANY pilot if they were fortunate enough to have that choice.

Stan446

[QUOTE=FXLAX;3016582]This whole situation is really simple. The smart thing to do is to not resign if you don’t have to. If you resign when you are not required to, it may say a lot of good things, but its also not as smart as not resigning until you have to.

I certainly wouldn’t begrudge ANY pilot if they were fortunate enough to have that choice.[/QUOTE

I bet you'd begrudge them if you were unemployed and trying to get a job.
So holding a seniority number at two airlines is okay? Guys that want a career at FedEx could be behind a guy that isn't sure about FedEx? I was unemployed and knew guys that FedEx hired, that had no intention of staying at FedEx. Guys with a job and recall rights. Trying being unemployed because some Ahole Is doing a "temp" job at FedEx. Its unethical for for any mainline CP to not honor a resignation, And I hope that FedEx doesn't hire any of the furloughed guys until all the guys that really want to work at FedEx are hired. I doubt FedEx is going to need any mainline pilots with the numbers of regional pilots that are out of work. Guys that will be happy to make a career at FedEx. Its called ethics, not the prudent thing.

fightandflight

In my opinion this notion that someone can't have two seniority numbers because it somehow shows they don't "really want to work" at FedEx is wrong. The bottom line is when they made the decision to go to an airline they chose one that happened to furlough them. They earned the job at FedEx and for all we know they will go there, love it, and stay forever. If they happen to get recalled and liked their first choice better, they should have the right to go back to their first choice. It is easy to look at this from the perspective of a FedEx pilot and only want true believers, but are you telling me that if you got furloughed and went to Frontier (for example) and hated it, you wouldn't want the right to go back to the job you earned at FedEx? No need to answer, just a thought experiment that is too easy to answer from the safety of not having to make the decision. They (the furloughed pilot) will always be one person filling one job and just because they got that job in front of someone that may not have even gotten hired anywhere else, that doesn't mean that person really wants to be at FedEx any more than them. By your logic, a furloughed pilot should not get a job ANYWHERE else, because they could be taking that bus driver or plumbing job from someone that "really" wants it. If the furloughed pilot leaves FedEx for another airline, the spot opens for the next person to earn. Bottom line, I understand the compassion in your opinion but I don't think that this is truly an ethical dilemma.

Nightflyer

The solution to all of this is a national seniority list.

You are awarded your lifetime seniority number on the day you acquire your ATP.

Now you can change airlines as you please, and would be paid according to your seniority.

This would prevent the airlines from taking advantage of us, we could leave at will if we felt we had a bad contract, and take our seniority elsewhere. In this way, we would be more like free agents, and could sell our skills to the highest bidder.

You can discuss that while I go work.

FXLAX

Yes, that’s exactly what I mean when I said I wouldn’t begrudge them. I’m not getting into who fedex should or shouldn’t hire. That’s up to them. But if they hire I furloughed pilot it’s because they were qualified and got through the interview process. In other words, FedEx felt that they earned a job offer. That’s good enough for me whether or not they were furloughed or not. It’s not being an ahole when doing the smart thing. It’s just simply being smart.

I hope FedEx hires unemployed and furloughed pilots. I would welcome both of them equally. And if the furloughed pilot takes his recall, I would be okay with that as well.

I guess I’m different. And I’m fine with that.

BLOB

[QUOTE=Stan446;3016828]Stan
A company isn’t going to hire until they’ve gone through and recalled everybody with a seniority number. At that point the individual would have to return or resign so he is not keeping anybody out of a job.

FrankTheTank

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