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Maybe YOUR airline has a specific CASS system issue overseas, but my airline provides direct access to the CASS system vía a proprietary app and cockpit jumpseaters are verified to be eligible planeside and prior to boarding by the flight crew. It doesn’t matter if we are in Orlando or Osaka, it all works the same way. All the answers you need are in your last paragraph, TSA lifted the ban in 2012, some airlines figured it out (built an app, created a listing tool that works overseas) and some did not.
Whip, something also tells me you’re the kind of pilot who always needs to get the last word in so I’ll let you have it. It’s been an unpleasant experience - hope we never have to interact again.
Seriously though, professional to professional, best of luck while the industry we work in implodes around us.
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I actually found that some of you don’t really know what you are talking about so I double checked some things I knew to be true.
Since it’s publicly available,
From ALPA’s jumpseat guide:
“3. Verifying Cockpit Access Security System (CASS) approval— ————. CASS serves only to meet the employment and identity verification requirement necessary to occupy a flight deck jumpseat. It has no bearing on eligibility to ride in the cabin.”
In the following paragraph:
“A jumpseater who will be occupying a cabin seat does not need to be CASS approved. “
So not thanks to CASS after all...
A little further down:
“International Jumpseating
In 2012, TSA lifted the restriction on off-line pilots occupying the jumpseat on international flights. As of this writing, ALPA is working to address a number of logistical hurdles and we anticipate that international jump- seating will again be a reality in the future. Until then, an off-line pilot may only occupy a seat in the passenger cabin when traveling internationally.”
As was explained to me, those LOGISTICAL HURDLES were mostly related to CASS.
Since it’s publicly available,
From ALPA’s jumpseat guide:
“3. Verifying Cockpit Access Security System (CASS) approval— ————. CASS serves only to meet the employment and identity verification requirement necessary to occupy a flight deck jumpseat. It has no bearing on eligibility to ride in the cabin.”
In the following paragraph:
“A jumpseater who will be occupying a cabin seat does not need to be CASS approved. “
So not thanks to CASS after all...
A little further down:
“International Jumpseating
In 2012, TSA lifted the restriction on off-line pilots occupying the jumpseat on international flights. As of this writing, ALPA is working to address a number of logistical hurdles and we anticipate that international jump- seating will again be a reality in the future. Until then, an off-line pilot may only occupy a seat in the passenger cabin when traveling internationally.”
As was explained to me, those LOGISTICAL HURDLES were mostly related to CASS.
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