PUB call 17 jun 21
06-19-2021, 05:02 PM
#31
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Joined APC: May 2006
Position: Excessed WB Capt.
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
Please educate me. Since when was it ever proposed to "vote away" our A plan? I must have missed that email or communication from the union. What I have seen discussed is different A plan formulas, but it is still an A plan (pension).
06-20-2021, 08:18 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
How do they notify us of crew calls? This is the first that I've heard of one and would've liked to have listened in....
for emails
go to
fdx.alpa.org
sign in
scroll down to administrative section of icons
select email and contact update
enter your information. (note it will send you to alpa.org and then go to the red "my ALPA" section, upper right of the page)
For textcaster
go to
fdx.alpa.org
scroll down to pilot services
select "texcaster"
Fill in your information
Hope this helps
06-20-2021, 08:33 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by HelpABrotherOut
What did you accomplish during your time as a rep?
Is this sour grapes because the MEC clearly didn't want you (twice) for MEC Chairman?
How do you preach unity, when all of your efforts are slinging mud at a body that appears to be functioning fairly well? You reference Crewbus commando....aren't you an APC commando?
It's getting old. You are management's wet dream.
Is this sour grapes because the MEC clearly didn't want you (twice) for MEC Chairman?
How do you preach unity, when all of your efforts are slinging mud at a body that appears to be functioning fairly well? You reference Crewbus commando....aren't you an APC commando?
It's getting old. You are management's wet dream.
As for the chair, I may not have been the right guy, but the current MEC chairman is the wrong guy. Sadly, we will all pay that price, but at least I stood to be counted. How about you?
I talk about membership involvement. You can't have unity if the pilots don't get involved. How many union meetings have you attended?
I talk to pilots all the time. The level of predetermined doom and apathy is what I am trying to correct. I simply ask for 1% of their time. Go to one meeting a year. Call your rep once a quarter. Write one email a quarter. Is that too much to ask to ensure an industry leading contract that treats us professionally and compensates us fairly?
If so, good luck. If not, take a stand and give 1%.
Lastly, unity is not do what we say of your a troublemaker. It is getting involved and having the complete discussion. How about this PUB call, no comments allowed, no asking our questions without their filter, no follow up.
So which side of that are you on?
06-20-2021, 08:53 AM
#34
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Get your ears on
EVERYONE should be asking their fellow crew members if they are engaged and paying attention to what’s going on. The Negotiating Committee and the Company are negotiating right now!!! Most people I’ve talked to didn’t know this.
NOW IS THE TIME
YOUR FUTURE PAY, BENEFITS and QUALITY OF LIFE ARE UP FOR GRABS RIGHT NOW
RUMORS will start being passed around —- blow them off and listen to the official communication. Bad actors and passionate voices on both sides of the fence will say and do things that will divide us — intentionally and unknowingly.
TRUST the MEC and the NC. Wait and see what’s been negotiated before voicing judgement. If they deliver a winning TA we’ll pass it. If they come up short of our expectations we’ll vote it down. We remain in control no matter what happens. Now is not the time to go NORDO and fly blind.
NOW IS THE TIME
YOUR FUTURE PAY, BENEFITS and QUALITY OF LIFE ARE UP FOR GRABS RIGHT NOW
RUMORS will start being passed around —- blow them off and listen to the official communication. Bad actors and passionate voices on both sides of the fence will say and do things that will divide us — intentionally and unknowingly.
TRUST the MEC and the NC. Wait and see what’s been negotiated before voicing judgement. If they deliver a winning TA we’ll pass it. If they come up short of our expectations we’ll vote it down. We remain in control no matter what happens. Now is not the time to go NORDO and fly blind.
06-22-2021, 06:17 PM
#35
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Position: MD
Posts: 62
I originally said that the train had left the station, and ALPA really really wants this because any huge pot of money can eventually find a small trickle of management fees (0.5% of a billion $ is nothing to sneeze at). See other union pension plans. I propose the following:
You as a pilot commit to a binding contract for the rest of your term of employment for one of the two choices:
1. The vegan (non dinosaur) pancake plan as proposed in the modeler.
2. The defined benefit as currently defined with the caveat that it is plus upped to meet or exceed choice 1.
The company gave the mechanics way back when the option of staying with their current plan or opting for the new and improved plan. So, the company ran two different plans at the same time for the mechanics. By having all our independent contractors commit to a particular "pension" plan, they can put their future money where their current mouth is. Then we will see if we have the behavior of the US Women's Soccer team.
You as a pilot commit to a binding contract for the rest of your term of employment for one of the two choices:
1. The vegan (non dinosaur) pancake plan as proposed in the modeler.
2. The defined benefit as currently defined with the caveat that it is plus upped to meet or exceed choice 1.
The company gave the mechanics way back when the option of staying with their current plan or opting for the new and improved plan. So, the company ran two different plans at the same time for the mechanics. By having all our independent contractors commit to a particular "pension" plan, they can put their future money where their current mouth is. Then we will see if we have the behavior of the US Women's Soccer team.
06-30-2021, 07:49 AM
#36
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Posts: 499
My favorite part of the Pub call was when PM stated that the "experts" they keep referring to with respect to the financial decisions about our retirement are FDX ALPA pilot chairmen, FDX ALPA full time employees, ALPA national pilot experts, ALPA national full-time employees and an outside company Chiron. So pretty much what everyone has been saying. No actual financial services experts have been consulted at all. We have pilots making a massive financial decisions for all of us. I've heard very few pilot financial planning plans that seem to work out well. I know I've learned my lesson and quit trying to beat the stock market with my own "expert" advise.
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