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06-12-2021, 06:36 PM

BrianH

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PUB call 17 jun 21

There is a PUB call scheduled for the 17th. The topic is a negotiation update.

I wonder if PSPP will be defined this time? Also, will the MEC be told by then its their Defined Benefit improvement focus?

06-14-2021, 07:35 AM

Spot13

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Bye to the Defined Benefits plan

Say goodbye to your A plan because our MEC is already working with the company to give it up. Read the new contract when it is sent it out. We are going to lose our A plan

06-14-2021, 08:37 AM

Huck

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Good......About time.

06-14-2021, 09:46 AM

Moosefire

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Good......About time.

Amen! We’ve become such an echo chamber on this front. Our A-plan is a dinosaur that is going to cost our younger pilots serious dollars if not seriously reformed.

06-14-2021, 10:17 AM

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tel:3249977]3249977]Amen[/url]! We’ve become such an echo chamber on this front. Our A-plan is a dinosaur that is going to cost our younger pilots serious dollars if not seriously reformed.

if we can improve the $260k limit and get automatic steps for inflation it’s fine. Treat the A-plan as you bond/fixed income portion of your retirement and invest the B-plan. Save a little more on the side and you’re fine.

You might not get to live paycheck to paycheck on your $350k salary and still retire with a +50% income replacement like you can now, but you can live comfortably and retire with 75% replacement. We should Accept a little personal responsibility, there’s not enough of that going around.

a major overhaul that re-invents the wheel is unnecessary.

06-14-2021, 11:34 AM

Stan446

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Originally Posted by Spot13

Say goodbye to your A plan because our MEC is already working with the company to give it up. Read the new contract when it is sent it out. We are going to lose our A plan

A plan is going nowhere unless the membership votes it away. Plenty of info out there way getting rid of it is foolish. If you believe that we don't have leverage to get what we want, they you are misguided. And we aren't hurting the junior pilots by keeping the A plan, we all get it. The company has a legal obligation to pay us a A plan and that plan should be at the IRS limits. They can afford it. How much money has the company made in the past year and still making?

06-14-2021, 12:59 PM

2BEER

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I am junior and will NOT be voting our A plan away.

06-14-2021, 01:06 PM

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I am junior and will NOT be voting our A plan away.

Same here. I’m junior and under 40.
I want the A-plan. We would be foolish to get rid of it.

No PBS either.

06-14-2021, 01:19 PM

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Same here. I’m junior and under 40.
I want the A-plan. We would be foolish to get rid of it.

No PBS either.

Hear! Hear!

06-14-2021, 03:49 PM

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I haven’t even been born yet and I want my A plan! But in all seriousness, flood you reps with emails letting them know that you will not accept anything that takes away our A plan. If we then find that the NC has opened with a plan that doesn’t include it, time to fire them! We can’t let this be open for discussion in front of the company. Period!