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10-06-2021 | 11:51 AM
#61
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I am NOT unhappy at FedEx. What I am unhappy about is that I see a great job getting flushed down the toilet by people like NoWork. There were zero reasons why in 2015 with the economy booming and especially the airline industry taking off with pilots at legacies negotiating great deals that FedEx pilots should have ever taken concessions. FedEx went backwards while everyone sprung forward. When I first got here from a legacy, I was shocked to hear how the union and the company tempers expectations. It was the first time I heard the phrase, "but what are you willing to give up in order to get that...". I was floored when I went to the first TA road show meeting to hear not just one, but four pilots take to the microphones and sounding like little school girls asking the same question, "what's going to happen with peak if this TA doesn't pass?" In other words, they were more worried about peak and how the company was going to handle peak than they were their financial and professional future as written in the TA.
FedEx pilots don't have a bad contract however they shouldn't be giving up things they've already earned or negotiated. In the past few years FedEx pilots have embraced a lot of change and adopted efficiencies which has made FedEx Express much more profitable and safer: wake up call system, new fuel ladder, less than all engine taxi and PART 121/Flag Operations. And FedEx pilots have crushed it during COVID. They've literally put their lives and families at risk while delivering the Purple Promise. FedEx management violated the people, service, profit mantra that made this company what it is today by negotiating contract 2015 knowing exactly how they were going to dupe the FedEx pilots.
I am trying to wake up FedEx pilots we don't don't make the same mistakes of C2015. It is time FedEx pilots hold the line and advance the ball.
Been there, done that. Not going back unless FedEx burns down.
FedEx pilots don't have a bad contract however they shouldn't be giving up things they've already earned or negotiated. In the past few years FedEx pilots have embraced a lot of change and adopted efficiencies which has made FedEx Express much more profitable and safer: wake up call system, new fuel ladder, less than all engine taxi and PART 121/Flag Operations. And FedEx pilots have crushed it during COVID. They've literally put their lives and families at risk while delivering the Purple Promise. FedEx management violated the people, service, profit mantra that made this company what it is today by negotiating contract 2015 knowing exactly how they were going to dupe the FedEx pilots.
I am trying to wake up FedEx pilots we don't don't make the same mistakes of C2015. It is time FedEx pilots hold the line and advance the ball.
Been there, done that. Not going back unless FedEx burns down.
Our MEC helped set up non-pilot management with fake pilot profiles to watch us.
Our MEC gave in to making the shots mandatory and you WILL be fired if you do not take the shot.
Our MEC HAS given up our A-Plan.
Our MEC is doing exactly what the company and ALPA.
Our MEC has a strike committed. Which of you believe we will strike? Guess what we will not strike so this is another useless position.
Our MEC has already said that they "first time" acceleration of a contract was committed by the company and yet two weeks later a message is out saying the company lied about this.
Get serious, our MEC sells us out either to the company or to ALPA.
Shout out again to the four FedEx Pilots who sued the MEC. Our MEC will be sued again and ALPA will do nothing.
10-06-2021 | 05:31 PM
#63
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Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 277
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From: MD-11/C-17
Because our MEC has sold us out. They are run by ALPA and are nothing but puppets. Read the latest MEC email defending ALPA for us or better yet look at the board as you drive out of the AOC. ALPA...nothing about our MEC.
Our MEC helped set up non-pilot management with fake pilot profiles to watch us.
Our MEC gave in to making the shots mandatory and you WILL be fired if you do not take the shot.
Our MEC HAS given up our A-Plan.
Our MEC is doing exactly what the company and ALPA.
Our MEC has a strike committed. Which of you believe we will strike? Guess what we will not strike so this is another useless position.
Our MEC has already said that they "first time" acceleration of a contract was committed by the company and yet two weeks later a message is out saying the company lied about this.
Get serious, our MEC sells us out either to the company or to ALPA.
Shout out again to the four FedEx Pilots who sued the MEC. Our MEC will be sued again and ALPA will do nothing.
Our MEC helped set up non-pilot management with fake pilot profiles to watch us.
Our MEC gave in to making the shots mandatory and you WILL be fired if you do not take the shot.
Our MEC HAS given up our A-Plan.
Our MEC is doing exactly what the company and ALPA.
Our MEC has a strike committed. Which of you believe we will strike? Guess what we will not strike so this is another useless position.
Our MEC has already said that they "first time" acceleration of a contract was committed by the company and yet two weeks later a message is out saying the company lied about this.
Get serious, our MEC sells us out either to the company or to ALPA.
Shout out again to the four FedEx Pilots who sued the MEC. Our MEC will be sued again and ALPA will do nothing.
10-08-2021 | 09:04 AM
#65
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 505
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For those that are concerned about the FDX schedule, I think the previous poster that suggested just jumpseating has a great idea. On your week off just schedule a few consecutive nights of jumpseating from your home into MEM/IND and back. Watch how well you and your family work with you off cycle during those days. See how well you sleep and feel after a few nights. That would pretty much give you a worst case scenario junior pilot view of FDX flying. Also see how the crew you are flying with looks and acts after a few nights. At least then you can make a decision from a more informed position. You can learn how to deal with the night turns if/when you have to do them; both from your body and your family. As others pointed out, there are lots of other options that won't be night hub turning, but knowing what the worst case feels like might help you make the best decision for you and your family.
As someone that did night hub turns for years and years while senior in my seat, it sucked but I was able to spend quality time with my family consistently. I coached all my boys soccer teams for years, I very rarely missed a practice or a game. I was able to be a contributing member as Dad in the house almost every day of the month. I shifted planes recently to all international and the flying is much better (excluding Covid lockdown), but I missed over half of last year's high school soccer games on trips. Pay is better, trips are nicer but I'll never get back those missed moments. Again personal decisions you make as a family, but just know that night hubs turns are not the complete horror for everyone. But try them out and see for yourself. At least they won't be a complete unknown.
As someone that did night hub turns for years and years while senior in my seat, it sucked but I was able to spend quality time with my family consistently. I coached all my boys soccer teams for years, I very rarely missed a practice or a game. I was able to be a contributing member as Dad in the house almost every day of the month. I shifted planes recently to all international and the flying is much better (excluding Covid lockdown), but I missed over half of last year's high school soccer games on trips. Pay is better, trips are nicer but I'll never get back those missed moments. Again personal decisions you make as a family, but just know that night hubs turns are not the complete horror for everyone. But try them out and see for yourself. At least they won't be a complete unknown.
10-08-2021 | 11:34 AM
#67
On Reserve
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 155
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From: 777
Don't feed the troll. Too much time with the crack pipe. Anyone with common sense knows management can track every key stroke we hit on PFC without any help from ALPA.
ALPA has and continues to advocate for voluntary vaccination as evidenced by resolution 21-21 and very recent MEC officer messages.
ALPA has and continues to advocate for voluntary vaccination as evidenced by resolution 21-21 and very recent MEC officer messages.
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