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Old 07-28-2022 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by IFartInYourSeat
Yep. Unofficial CJO from CP via phone call on a Friday. Rather not say when but it was sometime in June. I got some decisions to make but I don’t want to blow off another interview coming up with SWA (because I should just go to every interview). That interview is mid-August, but I’ll cancel it once I got an official class date with FedEx because it’s where I want to be.

Just don’t want to count my hens before they hatch kind of mentality, ya know. I’d love more info on this “signal” group.
Reach out to those who also got CJOs from when you interviewed. They will have more info on the group. Congratulations!
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Old 07-28-2022 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by opt0712
Reach out to those who also got CJOs from when you interviewed. They will have more info on the group. Congratulations!
Will do. Thanks!
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Old 07-28-2022 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by IFartInYourSeat
Yep. Unofficial CJO from CP via phone call on a Friday. Rather not say when but it was sometime in June. I got some decisions to make but I don’t want to blow off another interview coming up with SWA (because I should just go to every interview). That interview is mid-August, but I’ll cancel it once I got an official class date with FedEx because it’s where I want to be.

Just don’t want to count my hens before they hatch kind of mentality, ya know. I’d love more info on this “signal” group.
Sent you a PM.
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Old 07-28-2022 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
I think you put way too much stock in whatever training program airline X, airline Y or even FedEx has for Captains. You seem to place minimal value on previous PIC experience when it's probably the most important asset any future airline Captain can bring to the table. There's no substitute for it. Removing the PIC requirement is an economic decision by various airline's management who have decided they have no choice. If it is such a great improvement, why didn't they make the change 5, 10 or 20 years ago? Just because those airlines have reached that level of desperation definitely doesn't mean it's the best option. FedEx has always stated they're hiring future Captains because every single one they've hired up to now has already proven they can actually fulfill that role and their experience was part of the qualifications that got them the job. That's not the same thing as flying around in the right seat and somehow getting that command experience by osmosis.

Justifying hiring pilots without PIC time just because they might be able to pass the training necessary to get into a left seat at an airline doesn't negate the fact that they are behind their peers who already have thousands of hours as PIC in a military aircraft, RJ, corporate or ACMI cockpit. Foreign airlines like to put ab initio pilots into the right seat of an airliner with 250 hours, the ability to run a checklist and use the autopilot. That doesn't mean that FO is going to be worth much if the flight goes off script. It definitely doesn't mean it's the best way to cultivate solid FOs and future Captains. Same thing for us. We have the option at the moment to continue hiring pilots who have already proven they can be a Captain. What value does moving away from that requirement bring us? Absolutely none. We're not a training ground for pilots with no PIC experience because we don't need to be. I'll take a new Captain in command of the aircraft on which I happen to be jumpseating who already has plenty of experience as PIC any day over someone who is using that flight for OJT.
You hit the nail on the head.

In my Indoc class at AA this month....EVERY SINGLE PERSON there had TPIC experience. Even though HR has the ability to hire zero TPIC people it is still the exception. Even AA is hiring with the mentality that you are a captain from day 1. People are getting hired at the "Big 4" with no PIC time, but they are still the exception and not the rule. The market isn't short on pilots, the market is short on captains and people who can make the jump to the left seat quickly.
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Old 08-07-2022 | 07:50 PM
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I know it can’t be talked about but what is to be expected if you are given the Cog test? I’ve never really taken one before.
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Old 08-08-2022 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mustang1992
I know it can’t be talked about but what is to be expected if you are given the Cog test? I’ve never really taken one before.
it’s an online, computer based medical test that checks for brain injury or impairment. If you are currently flying a plane for compensation and can hold a medical, you’re fine.
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Old 08-08-2022 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LearPilot88
You hit the nail on the head.

In my Indoc class at AA this month....EVERY SINGLE PERSON there had TPIC experience. Even though HR has the ability to hire zero TPIC people it is still the exception. Even AA is hiring with the mentality that you are a captain from day 1. People are getting hired at the "Big 4" with no PIC time, but they are still the exception and not the rule. The market isn't short on pilots, the market is short on captains and people who can make the jump to the left seat quickly.
What's the "big 4"?
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Old 08-08-2022 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by focusedflying
what's the "big 4"?

aa,dl,sw,ua
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Old 08-13-2022 | 06:37 PM
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Just put my app in a couple of weeks ago, 3500 TFT, 1300+ PIC, current FED, retired military.
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Old 08-13-2022 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rolltidepilot
Just put my app in a couple of weeks ago, 3500 TFT, 1300+ PIC, current FED, retired military.
Let me know when you find out. Have had mine in over a year 3400 Mil TPIC
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