I didn't misinterpret anything. I asked you a question based on your statement, which you did not answer. Nice attempt at a head fake.

You say you want the requirements changed because we are missing out on good candidates. Who are these good candidates and what makes them better than the candidates we are hiring? The only good reason to change the requirements is if we aren't getting quality candidates. You make the blanket statement that you would feel more comfortable flying around the world with a FO from SWA with no PIC experience than someone with the PIC requirement. Now you are just pulling at straws unless you knew and have flown with that individual. So, what's your case for getting rid of the PIC requirement? Is it because others are doing it? Not a very good reason. Is it because we don't have enough qualified applicants? We do. Or is it because the people who are being hired aren't that great and we need to expand the search?

 

As someone who has FedEx as my number 1, the PIC requirement is an annoyance but not a deal breaker by any means. I'm going through upgrade training at my current company next week (5th type rating in 6 years - eventually the numbers will all straighten themselves out!) and will finally start building the 'right kind' of PIC time. All the previous 135 operations I've flown for have done a co-capt approach to flying, where on your day to sit left seat as PF you also had all the duties of PIC, and you were expected to log PIC as PF regardless of who was listed as PIC on the flight plan. There's even discrepancies about when to log PIC as PF at my current fractional depending on who you ask. I'm not sure that an additional 500 will make me a fundamentally different pilot at this point, but FedEx needs that specific box checked so I'm going to do it ASAP to get to where I want to be. Am I currently qualified? Probably. Will I leave my current fractional for anywhere besides FDX? No.

 

you're doing it again. no head fakes here buddy.

I never said I would be more comfortable with one over the other. Could you highlight that one too, chief???? If the individual in the seat passed training, they are, drum roll please, qualified and I am (continuing drumroll) comfortable flying with them, PIC time or not!

What question of yours did I not answer? Candidates go to other airlines, instead of building PIC time, to gain seniority over coming to FedEx. Those are the candidates we should at least give a look at, because they will never have the opportunity to work here unless they wait it out at a regional (or insert gig here). Some are willing to wait, yes (see above), which is great, but COVID has shown that it's best to run for the hills versus wait for a certain airline to call. I'd bet the individual above would be much happier if he could get on here a bit earlier without the coveted PIC time you all speak of.


Something happened for us to change the 4 year degree, didn't it? We did what everyone else is doing there didn't we???? Were we not getting quality candidates before with the 4 year requirement, lol????

The true head fake is you not acknowledging the fact that we have changed our hiring process so it is easier and more efficient, which is exactly what you dramatically eluded to in your previous post. We ARE moving towards lower standards because of the market at FedEx. We CAN hire no PIC pilots at FedEx and have strong FO's and CA's flying our aircraft around the world, it's already happening in the industry and it's only a matter of time before it happens here.

 

There you go "chief," I quoted and highlighted what you said.

 

Never, did I say I would feel more comfortable with one or the other. It's like you read what you want, then post some BS up. Put down the keyboard and get your readers on grandpa. Keep disregarding the rest of my posts while you get stuck on another misinterpretation due to your lack of reading and comprehension.

 

*backs away slowly with hands up*

 

Hahahahah it’s the forum of disagreements, it’s all good man. Some folks are scared of change, which is happening rapidly (in good ways) here.

 

I have over 1000 hours Turbine PIC from a 135 company, still cannot get an email from FedEx, very frustrating!

 

Ahh, when you don't know what you are talking about, then resort to name calling. Maybe you should look up what prefer means.

 

Who is scared of change. Change for the sake of change or because that is what everyone else is doing is not a good change.