Thats another false statement from the anti- alpa crowd trumpeted by the minions. At No point during negotiations was FDX ALPA ever “out of money” - no committee was ever throttled back to work less because of budget constraints. Never happened.

in fact the largest point of contention after the fact was that the MEC never utilized the Major Contingency Fund or MCF. That may have been a strategic mistake but never a budgetary miscalculation. They didn’t need the money.

If they were out of money as fable has it- they would have access to millions in the MCF which is specific for negotiations while dues income could have been paying the ordinary operating cost.

The MCF was NEVER used for the 2015 contract.

Stop pretending you know what your talking about- you don’t.

 

Wrong! Never have. Try again Nightliar.

 

BINGO…. …….

 

Well the story at the time was that the MEC asked from money from the MCF and national said "sure show us your books", and for some unknown reason, we didn't want to show them our books. Hmmm.... I wonder why that was?

Can you explain that to me?

 

Which one is wrong, AK? Maybe, like I said, I don't have time right now.

UPS does have some sort of automatic pay clause, don't they? Why don't we?

 

No, UPS does not have an automatic pay clause.

 

FDX1 - you're up. You seem to have all the answers.

This is EXACTLY the way I remember it as well.

 

It wasn’t automatic, correct. It was an extension signed in 2020, that takes us to 2023. We do have one very interesting provision in our contract that in theory should shave off a substantial amount of time. If we don’t have TA by the amendable date (in this case the new amendable date), we go straight to mediation. So the typical 1-3 years spent negotiating post amendable date is essentially eliminated and go straight to the typical 1-3 years in mediation. This was a significant change in our ‘16 CBA.

So much bickering and infighting…..

 

Air Wisconsin has had that since at least 2005 I believe.

 

Walk around the AOC. How many are even wearing an ALPA lanyard? 10 months into negotiations even. We can’t even do the simplest gestures to show unity. The same crowd not participating, then bickering and moaning about a contract. Meanwhile chomping at the bit for premium trips. Sound a bit familiar?

As for the miss statements about automatic pay raises that has been debunked , like many bs lies spread by the same disunited crowd. UPS was in negotiations for 5 years prior to last contract and did an extension 2 years ago, not a section 6 bargaining cycle. I think they got a drum roll…. 3% and then 4% hourly increase annually in late 2022 and late 2023. I believe they also got a very small pension increase. Air Wisconsin was in negotiations for over 6 years prior to getting a middle of the pack contract. No automatic pay raises every year after amendable date as some have misstated. If those things are so great then lets just do an extension with a 3% and 4% raise and minuscule retirement bump and move on. Because according to the brilliance of some on JF thats a great achievement. This is not to devalue the UPS extension, but to put it into perspective on how mis characterized this statement is. As someone pointed out above the bickering, lack of spinal fortitude and lack of professional union integrity within our ranks is laughable. Now you see why management is laughing at us. Back to pinging open-time for premium pay says the masses… Check back in 3 years we may finally figure it out.