Noworkallplay

Time to bring this back to the top…..

Over the past 3 months we have now had ample opportunity to show our resolve and unity at meetings/pub events and in our actions as a pilot group.

Have we passed or failed?

Are most of the pilots you are flying with changing any behaviors?

Do we deserve a new contract based upon above questions?

Jma313

You’re looking at the wrong crew members, this isn’t a new hire issue.

Globemaster2827

Yeah... Taking a shot at new hires is off target. This is the best job in aviation right now and people would be crazy to not take a job here. I don't have time to fly extra. I've got little kids.

PostalAV8B

Junior in my seat. Bottom 5% for vacation in June. Was waiting for the involuntary vacation cancellation. Never happened thankfully, enjoying my time off while the Senior bubbas who sold back get to work.

BlueMoon

I don’t have time to fly extra and I don’t have kids. I don’t want to spend the majority of my life at work.

olly

I was at UAL in 1999. Eventually the pilot group grew agitated enough. we had ~ 10,000 pilots then, we probably had 99% that flew their line or traded even (6 day for a 6 day) or down traded (6 day for a 5 day) trip. No one worked on their days off. Within a weeks the flight info board in ORD was bleeding red - cancelled. We had a TA and a contract in weeks. There is a lot more context, but we had a "Mad Dog" Dubinsky as the MEC or lead negotiator, he was very experienced with the likes of Lorenzo, Wolf et, al. But to answer your question it was effective and quick once everyone got on board.

Noworkallplay

THANK YOU!!!! We have a very selfish pilot group and they need to hear about history and REAL UNITY. I have received numerous communications over the past months from our union sending the clear message, yet most purposely make excuses and clamber for cover when approached about it.

Gravitymatters

We do indeed!! specially after all we have been through: supporting the company through what seemed like madmax times, with the long extensions, revisions, isolation, deprivation, CIQ abuses, internment in COVID concentration camps in APAC, and long solitary confinement in places like TPE, SYD, CAN, SIN (TPE and CAN still remaining) We need a contract, but a contract needs to be backed up by our Chairman with a thank you note, we made it possible for our company to make it through this very difficult times. We got sick with COVID on our trips, missed precious family time when extended, and the thing that bothers me the most, at times flying with different guys every day due to trip revisions. We need to stick together, and fly the line that we are awarded, it’s the only way. FedEx knows what we have done for our company, but there is no urgency because they think that people will keep on shouldering on, flying extra trips, and that all we care about is quick money. If people keep on bidding stuff, different to their award, it is going to destroy our group longevity, and we will not get a contract until 2024, when recession has set in. It doesn’t take much, fly what you are awarded!

opt0712

Agreed. Hope to see you in Memphis on the 28th then.

C2078

Just like UPS and every other airline job (or any job), you only deserve and achieve what you bargain for. Nothing is gonna be given out to you for free. Capitalism is the absolute best and only properly functioning and efficient economic system, but definitely not without it’s flaws. If anyone thinks companies are gonna kiss your behinds just because, well…. Our jobs and our futures are only as strong as our unity and by default our Union(s).