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magic rat 09-14-2022 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 3494832)
You are describing passive observers. I agree.

We need active leaders.






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Who fly their awarded lines. Stop blaming ALPA and mentor the crew you fly with on what’s expected and what needs to be done…when the tell you about their new avionics in their planes, upgraded kitchens, and shiny new custom Harleys. Tell them we’re in negotiations. Truth hurts….

Tuck 09-14-2022 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3495011)
What more do you want the union to do? They have been clear for months on what they are asking from us. Most have choose to be selfish subcontractors. Place the blame on the proper people. It’s us as a pilot group.

Hold on a sec. Tony C posted some earlier posts you made about flying every possible flight you could - some pretty selfish posts. Will you please comment on those? Were your comments accurate? Did you actually post what Tony reposted? I find it hard to believe that as you've been pretty ardent in your opinions on this but now I'm wondering if you've just had this "conversion" in the last few months? Please don't post any more till you respond to Tony's post. Thx.

pinseeker 09-14-2022 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 3495073)
Hold on a sec. Tony C posted some earlier posts you made about flying every possible flight you could - some pretty selfish posts. Will you please comment on those? Were your comments accurate? Did you actually post what Tony reposted? I find it hard to believe that as you've been pretty ardent in your opinions on this but now I'm wondering if you've just had this "conversion" in the last few months? Please don't post any more till you respond to Tony's post. Thx.

Yes Tuck, those really were his posts. You can click on the arrow beside the user name in the post and it will take you to the original post. This clown also stated that it was ok to fly extra and draft/AVA for the first 7 months of negotiations because those were only early openers and that the real negotiations didn't start until after the amenable date. He likes to tell others what to do, but makes up his own rules whenever it benefits him.

Noworkallplay 09-15-2022 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 3495073)
Hold on a sec. Tony C posted some earlier posts you made about flying every possible flight you could - some pretty selfish posts. Will you please comment on those? Were your comments accurate? Did you actually post what Tony reposted? I find it hard to believe that as you've been pretty ardent in your opinions on this but now I'm wondering if you've just had this "conversion" in the last few months? Please don't post any more till you respond to Tony's post. Thx.

What he didn’t post was the post immediately following those saying I posted that in frustration. Never actually did them or acted on it.

Noworkallplay 09-15-2022 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 3495083)
Yes Tuck, those really were his posts. You can click on the arrow beside the user name in the post and it will take you to the original post. This clown also stated that it was ok to fly extra and draft/AVA for the first 7 months of negotiations because those were only early openers and that the real negotiations didn't start until after the amenable date. He likes to tell others what to do, but makes up his own rules whenever it benefits him.


My frustration got the best of me. I responded to you with this

“My frustration caused me to say “going forward I was going to do draft/ava”. This was out of frustration and never acted on. I made that clear in further posts. I have integrity and couldn’t live with myself acting in a scab/self serving manner. I actually have a conscious, unlike the majority in our pilot group.”

Like I have said time and again, we will get what we are willing to fight for. Nothing more. It’s a pilot group problem. To many self centered individuals.

Noworkallplay 09-15-2022 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 3494873)
Says the hypocrite.

Posted 06-25-2022:Posted 06-25-2022:Posted 06-26-2022:


Ignorance and hypocrisy abounds.






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How about quoting the posts following those in which I stated that was posted in frustration? Interesting you choose to leave that out. I responded in-part below.

“My frustration caused me to say “going forward I was going to do draft/ava”. This was out of frustration and never acted on. I made that clear in further posts. I have integrity and couldn’t live with myself acting in a scab/self serving manner. I actually have a conscious, unlike the majority in our pilot group.”

pinseeker 09-15-2022 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3495229)
How about quoting the posts following those in which I stated that was posted in frustration? Interesting you choose to leave that out. I responded in-part below.

“My frustration caused me to say “going forward I was going to do draft/ava”. This was out of frustration and never acted on. I made that clear in further posts. I have integrity and couldn’t live with myself acting in a scab/self serving manner. I actually have a conscious, unlike the majority in our pilot group.”

So you made it clear that you didn't actually follow through? You said ...



Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3448117)
I got a draft trip this last week also. MONEY MONEY….First time since Nov 21. Tired of watching the majority take the Draft and AVA when I choose differently for the past 10 months. It’s time for me to enrich me now.

How did you not follow through with something that you said you had already done? You stated that you had already gotten a draft trip in that post and that you were going to keep doing it. Were you lying about getting a draft trip? If so, what else have you been lying about? Looks like we have two possibilities here. Either you actually did take the draft trip you said you did, or, like many of us have been saying, you are a liar.

I notice that you also didn't refute the fact that you did draft or AVA for the first 7 months of negotiations, yet you like to tell others that they shouldn't be doing it. Again, you like to make up rules that fit your narrative.

Crazy Canuck 09-15-2022 08:23 AM

This bickering is like a terrible and embarrassing soap opera. First one to walk away gets the prize.

purple speed 09-15-2022 08:56 AM

Enough of the arguing. Let’s get back to the TA rumors.

opt0712 09-15-2022 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by purple speed (Post 3495373)
Enough of the arguing. Let’s get back to the TA rumors.

TA by end of September. Ratified by first week of December.


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