So, we agree on that point.

That begs the question, are WE good with current proceedings?


It's nearing the end of September, we're 16 months into negotiations that should have taken 6, we're almost a year past the amendable date, and we have one whole informational picketing event under our belt, a refusal to participate in ALPA-wide picketing, and a possible "surprise" picketing event planned next week. Meanwhile, every month, more and more of our brother and sister pilots are forced to retire with a 1998 pension. It's embarrassing.

In my opinion, we should NOT be satisfied with the pace of the negotiations, and we should be much more active in demonstrating that dissatisfaction and our resolve to conclude negotiations with a TA that meets and exceeds our limited negotiations goals. We did not narrow the focus of this CBA campaign so we could drag out the process over multiple years and multiple peaks, but that's where we are headed right now unless we start doing something different.




FXLAX, earlier in another thread you responded to a remark about "comments of one person" who recently took the reins of FedEx:I am encouraged that you would recognize in this instance the role of the Board of Directors in guiding the organization. I wish you could recognize the parallels with our MEC and the organization they are responsible for steering.






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TA???? Rumors???
 

I feel my comments on both “boards” are congruent. They do (or not do) exactly what their members want. Whether we agree on what they do or not do, is perfectly fine to disagree on. But to say they aren’t doing anything is false. The lack of change in direction is action in keeping status quo. As soon as they decide they don’t like the direction, it will change. And maybe we will disagree on the manner they changed (not what changed) and how they communicate it to us. But that is different than saying they are not doing exactly what they want.

Contract Negotiating Grid
 

It looks like the most recent negotiation sessions have been updated with “Company Term Sheet” and “ALPA Term Sheet”. Could someone please fill me in on what this might mean?

Google Says Union Term Sheet is:

“Term Sheet: Often a bullet-point document listing the most important concepts of a proposal. Often proposals are passed and countered working off of the same document, where concepts that are agreed to are noted as such and counterproposals are shown by adding another column or by making redlined changes to the proposal. Bargaining using term sheets keeps the parties focused on the key concepts at issue and avoids negotiations bogging down in the details of actual contract language.”

In our case I would say it’s all the money items left into one proposal.

https://www.alpa.org/ala/-/media/ALA...sary.pdf?la=en

Exactly. In this specific limited focus negotiations it's probably all the items that really matter. All of the sections that are TA'd probably amount to about equal give from both parties - so a net cost close to zero. But now we are in the area where ALPA alone stands to gain and it will cost the Company. We'll see what happens. Believe today was the last day of all scheduled negotiations. I expect we will hear something soon.

Yep. See y'all on Wall Street on Monday.

Yep. There is nothing at all funny about that if you know what it means. Quite the opposite.

If you were correct about the last scheduled day, the silence is defining. We wouldn't know if it was the last day since the added dates weren't published. But hey, we are use to the secrets by this point. You would think that the MEC would want to get a message out considering they wanted us to keep the second half of the month available for the picketing event that had a secret date.

I came from another legacy carrier based in Atlanta and the communication has been less than ideal here from ALPA. How do they create unity if we’re not getting emails that tell us what’s going on. Even if it’s a no update, update, send it. Let us know when the NC is meeting with the company etc…

Are you happy you left your former carrier? I’m one of many FedEx poolies from there who’d love your input.