Nucflash

Sometimes timing sucks. It did for this particular guy. Talk to a current legacy new hire 23 years from now and he’ll likely have a very different story. And no, he won’t inevitably be beating on your door as many think they all will be; the days of feast and famine and queueing up to jump into the FedEx lifeboat are over.

Zoom out far past your small slice of life flying jets at FedEx Express. The story here, as others have mentioned, is how this company is being run and what long term planning is being done, if any. For example, the Ground debacle is looking like more of a bloody mess by the day, and I’m not sure there are strategies in place to fix it. If not, it will become more and more of a drag on the entire corporation. The sky isn’t falling for FedEx pilots, but “recession proof” might not be a word we continue to associate with FedEx. Anyway, just a concerned shareholder perspective, but there it is.

majorpilot

No dog in the fight, but a buddy who just upgraded (after <18 mos) at a major pax carrier will be making pretty close to what would be WB CA pay at Purple. He’s done the math, with today’s facts, it would take more than a decade at Purple to maybe make it up.

New contracts being negotiated across the industry will change the ground under our feet and the relevant facts — hopefully for the MUCH better for all of us!

ClncClarence

I was among the first to be called for a class date (originally CJO was pre-covid) when DL restarted hiring in mid-2021 and turned down my CJO for a class at Purple that I had accepted a few days prior. At the time it seemed like a good plan, but in hindsight I honestly don’t know if I made the right choice.

The results of our current contract negotiations will determine if I made a massive mistake and I think about it a lot. I’m glad there are people here who are willing to admit it’s far from sunshine and unicorns in Memphis because there are plenty on the line who are in total denial and still think this is the best gig in town. As we sit TODAY, that is absolutely not true.

Nucflash

Unlike FedEx (you are absolutely sunk in perpetuity if you turn down a class there) you could try again at Delta and still be considered…..

ClncClarence

Nah, at this point I’m frankly not willing to start over again and put myself at the bottom of a list that has now hired 50% of their pilots in the past 8 years. I’ll still retire well under 5% at FedEx even if we stay this size forever.

I’ve hitched my cart to this horse and will
concentrate on trying to make it better for all of us that are here now and anyone who joins in the future.

threeighteen

The old FedEx is gone, but if we stick together and actively work towards making this a better place, the new FedEx can be even better (for at least the pilots, the customers are probably going to keep getting screwed by Raj)

#NOCONCESSIONS

FXLAX

Curious, what makes you think that delta or any other legacy would give any pilot another CJO after rejecting them? I haven’t heard of that in the past 10 years+ or ever. Maybe I’m wrong in thinking that FedEx isn’t the only one who wouldn’t give you another chance? Although I feel they are in less of a position to do that.

HvypurplePylot

Desperation is a stinky cologne.

pinseeker

Yeah, I'm throwing the BS flag on this one. Which major and what aircraft. Less than 18 months there and already making what a WB captain makes at Fedex. Must be working that street corner where ever they are.

Noworkallplay

You have gone full dipshnit now. What numbers are you using? Why don’t you compare the guy hired here 18 months ago that also holds a captain bid? Now add in work rules and retirement as well as vacation. You have to be full-blown nitwit to come up with your conclusion. This doesn’t even assume our new contract that will eventually happen. Get real!!!