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02-27-2023, 03:04 PM

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opt0712

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Originally Posted by schloppy1

If you were at WAI, you probably noticed everyone is hiring and adding planes to their fleets. Purple is not hiring, parking birds, and is operating under a contract where some regional check airman can out earn us. I sincerely hope to make this a career destination again. Now is not that time.

Two of my uncles got me into flying. One flew here for 25 years and retired one summer afternoon at 62 when he didn't feel like flying anymore. The other is still at United, has been furloughed twice and will be there until 65 due to the set backs financially in said furloughs. The one at Purple told me to always see the forest through the trees in this industry. The one at United chased payrates. Where'd that get him?When one airline seems to be the best, the next best contract is right around the corner. Be engaged, support your NC.

02-27-2023, 03:19 PM

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Times are different now than 25 years ago. There are only three huge legacies now instead of 12 that had less pilots than what we have now. What was true then may not be true today. And things will be different in 25 years from now. Maybe by that time there will be autonomous airplanes?

02-27-2023, 03:31 PM

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I’ve flown 500,000 people, evenly split between United and Delta. I watched United hire then fire in 2008. Believe me, I know how brutal this biz can be. We aren’t in the times that you, me, and your uncles knew. We are critically short of aviators. Every legacy has started their own pilot training program. Yet FedEx is behaving like we can drop into 4A2b, and the people will still come when we open our doors again. The kid going to United today will probably enjoy a long fruitful career. The kid hired here today, will endure excess bids and stagnation. Those are the facts of today. I hope that changes tomorrow.

02-27-2023, 04:22 PM

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I hope it changes too, some things I’ve thought about to try and get a clearer picture of what will happen here at purple as far as progression goes. If what you say is true in your earlier post and we loose that many MD’s, Some of that will partially be offset by 76 and 777 outstanding orders until 2025. No information for what will happen after that so who knows. Also looking at the retirement numbers over 2000 will retire here in 10 years. At this moment I think there are better choices than FedEx for movement and pay, and you should probably look elsewhere if your looking from the outside. A tougher question for people already here depending on where you sit on the list.

02-27-2023, 05:12 PM

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opt0712

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From the schoolhouse, where the best rumor fruit is picked and juiced. Parking 21-28 mad-dogs. ANC and LAX MD-11 closed. The Cologne closing fruit hasn’t ripened enough to be picked yet. AKA, haven’t heard that one in the schoolhouse yet.

Give me some of what you're smoking. We are not parking 21-28 MDs. Are we furloughing the pilots along with them too? That number hasn't even been thrown around so not sure who your source is. What's fact is 1 more MD went to VCV for temp storage. It was stated in the instructor meeting by a VP that they don't want to make ANY drastic cuts to the MD or Airbus. Parking 3-7 MDs over the next 3-5 years while everyone migrated to the Boeings sounds more realistic with deliveries. The MD is the flex fleet from now on. There will be a continuous cycle of temp parking and bringing back tails.

02-27-2023, 05:16 PM

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Dude, I’m in the school house walking beneath the fruit of sweet sweet rumors. I know not what is truth and what is crap. I’m just trying to figure out WTH VNAV is.

02-27-2023, 05:50 PM

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Dude, I’m in the school house walking beneath the fruit of sweet sweet rumors. I know not what is truth and what is crap. I’m just trying to figure out WTH VNAV is.

I guess it's like PROF but you can't say that word.

hang in there!
fbh

02-28-2023, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FXLAX

Please name the other 9 huge legacies that were around 25 years ago.

02-28-2023, 04:15 AM

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Please name the other 9 huge legacies that were around 25 years ago.

Piedmont
Allegheny
PSA
US Air
Northwest
TWA
Panam
Continental
America West
ATA
MidWest

02-28-2023, 04:22 AM

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Piedmont
Allegheny
PSA
US Air
Northwest
TWA
Panam
Continental
America West
ATA
MidWest

Not all of those were "Legacy" airlines and some of those were defunct more than 25 years ago. Try again. Also, I don't think that most of those would qualify as huge, given that the post I questioned said that there are only 3 huge legacies currently.