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#NO CONCESSIONS! And that includes carving out any groups whether on property or not yet hired!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by schloppy1 (Post 3603752)

I will put real money on the table that, if this company drops the pension, they will fight like he** to find new hires. It doesn’t matter what the background is, everyone I work with states they are here for the pension. Without it, we’re one small step above Atlas. I took months off at Atlas with their vacation. Pre-Covid, I had more time off at Atlas. I’ve also jumpseated many times with United/Delta pilots that take months off as well. Without that pension, there is very little reason to come to FedEx. Pass a contract without the pension and lower pay rates and let’s see what happens.

I hate to break it to you, but the reality is most new hires are pretty young these days, at the legacies at least. They couldn’t care less about a 20+ year out of date A plan. There’s a major lack of reasons to join FedEx these days unless we can tie up an industry leading contract. I’d like to say looking at you management, but in all reality, we’re looking at you FDX ALPA. Cut the $hlt. Open the stuff back up that matters, scope and scheduling! If they won’t pay us, that’s their own death sentence when it comes to hiring pilots again.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...s-new-contract

Delta gets holiday pay? We should get holiday pay too!

The link says American's next.

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Originally Posted by Nightflyer (Post 3603873)

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...s-new-contract

Delta gets holiday pay? We should get holiday pay too!

The link says American's next.

Pretty sure they have night override pay also. When is most of our flying, oh thats right night. Puts their hourly rate even that much higher than ours. FUPM

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Originally Posted by Linepilot63 (Post 3603856)

I hate to break it to you, but the reality is most new hires are pretty young these days, at the legacies at least. They couldn’t care less about a 20+ year out of date A plan.

I beg to differ sir. Perhaps the younger generation as a whole isn’t interested in an A plan. But the younger folks I have flown with have all stated the A plan as one of their top reasons for being here. The other is vacation. Our vacation, while good, is not some outlier in the industry. Other outfits have decent vacation as well.

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Originally Posted by schloppy1 (Post 3603933)

can you elaborate for us outsiders why the vacation is good? I understand you can conflict bid it but what else?

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Originally Posted by StarClipper (Post 3603840)

#NO CONCESSIONS! And that includes carving out any groups whether on property or not yet hired!!!!!!!

I prefer to say it as, "No retirement B-Scale".

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Originally Posted by Nightflyer (Post 3603873)

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...s-new-contract

Delta gets holiday pay? We should get holiday pay too!

The link says American's next.

American Airlines CEO tells pilots the carrier will match Delta's pay

Story by Leslie Josephs • 1h ago

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Originally Posted by NoHaz (Post 3603979)

American Airlines CEO tells pilots the carrier will match Delta's pay

Story by Leslie Josephs • 1h ago

Lip service by a new CEO. Also, if they wanted a deal done they'd engage the union, not post a video on the internet. Headlines and videos buy AA management time.

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Originally Posted by opt0712 (Post 3604008)

Lip service by a new CEO. Also, if they wanted a deal done they'd engage the union, not post a video on the internet. Headlines and videos buy AA management time.

From the last APA update three days ago:

"Your Negotiating Committee spent last week in DFW, conducting bargaining sessions and meetings with management negotiators and subject matter experts. Discussions included an acknowledgement of the ratified Delta Air Lines agreement and focused on a mutual desire to complete Section 6 negotiations in an expeditious manner".

"We will remain engaged in uninterrupted and disciplined negotiations with management throughout the month. We are encouraged by management’s responsiveness to bring their subject matter experts and decision makers to the bargaining table and are ever thankful for the long list of APA volunteer SMEs at the ready to support us".

"There is still work to be done on both sides, but the path forward is headed in the right direction"