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threeighteen 03-04-2023 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by FreightFlyer91 (Post 3602083)
Those guys on Jetflyers are so embarrassing. The guy saying "I've flown with hundreds of pilots that came from Delta, United, American over the years and not a single one regrets it". Ya, sure buddy. I've. flown with 2 this week so far that regret it. The dinosaurs that think FedEx is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the only show in town are so far out of touch with reality.

And to the point that if we're going to get Delta's rates, we need to take their whole contract? Our openers literally say "to establish industry leading hourly rates of pay". Stop negotiating on the company's behalf you dolts.

"I'm willing to bend over and take it without lube as long as we fix my pension and don't get PBS"

My brother in substitution, we already have PBS.

USMCFDX 03-04-2023 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by schloppy1 (Post 3602092)
I really need to get back on jetflyers. I left because my blood pressure couldn’t handle it. I’ve got meds for that now and am ready to take on the crazy folks.

Don't do it! That place is more toxic than APC.

Linepilot63 03-04-2023 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by FreightFlyer91 (Post 3602083)
Those guys on Jetflyers are so embarrassing. The guy saying "I've flown with hundreds of pilots that came from Delta, United, American over the years and not a single one regrets it". Ya, sure buddy. I've. flown with 2 this week so far that regret it. The dinosaurs that think FedEx is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the only show in town are so far out of touch with reality.

And to the point that if we're going to get Delta's rates, we need to take their whole contract? Our openers literally say "to establish industry leading hourly rates of pay". Stop negotiating on the company's behalf you dolts.

I was at one of those carriers, go ahead and make that 3 this week. I’d imagine there’s numerous of us on the line as well that won’t admit to it as well. I’d rather skip that conversation of listening to the cap tell me why I’m crazy to not think this place is rainbows and unicorns.

coryk 03-05-2023 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by Linepilot63 (Post 3602162)
I was at one of those carriers, go ahead and make that 3 this week. I’d imagine there’s numerous of us on the line as well that won’t admit to it as well. I’d rather skip that conversation of listening to the cap tell me why I’m crazy to not think this place is rainbows and unicorns.

+4. Filler.

Merle Haggard 03-05-2023 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by P-3Bubba (Post 3602012)
DRIVE rollout on 4/5 is going to decimate what we think is deserved or attainable in a new TA. I’m very nervous. -Bubs

I was at a previous carrier where the CEO told the MEC chair that if he gave the pilots what they were asking for it would kill the airline. The MEC chairman replied "well, shut it down"

We had that exact contract within a couple of weeks.

BluePAX 03-05-2023 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Merle Haggard (Post 3602321)
I was at a previous carrier where the CEO told the MEC chair that if he gave the pilots what they were asking for it would kill the airline. The MEC chairman replied "well, shut it down"

We had that exact contract within a couple of weeks.


​​​​​Oh that is gold

Red Forman 03-05-2023 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Nightflyer (Post 3601379)
So the attitude of "screw the old guys" is ok with you? How's that going to help unity?

I might add that in 2015, new hire pay rates were increased, while retirement was not. So once again, new hires benefitted, at the expense of our retirement.

You got yours, but you want to screw the old guys out of the retirement that they earned? And then you say I have an attitude problem? Your attitude is exactly the problem, not mine.

Retirement needs to be fixed. Pay rates need to be fixed. What's wrong with fighting for both?

And you got yours when the retirement age was raised.

magic rat 03-05-2023 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by P-3Bubba (Post 3602012)
DRIVE rollout on 4/5 is going to decimate what we think is deserved or attainable in a new TA. I’m very nervous. -Bubs

Alright, I missed it, what’s DRIVE?

USMCFDX 03-05-2023 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by magic rat (Post 3602355)
Alright, I missed it, what’s DRIVE?

Corporate double speak for cost cutting.

DRIVE: Global Transformation Program
FedEx is advancing its global transformation through DRIVE, a comprehensive program to improve the company’s long-term profitability and achieve its financial targets. Through DRIVE, the company expects to achieve more than $4 billion in annualized structural cost reductions by fiscal 2025. FedEx plans to host a DRIVE update call during the first half of calendar 2023 to provide additional details on the company’s ongoing transformation.

StarClipper 03-05-2023 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFDX (Post 3602359)
Corporate double speak for cost cutting.

DRIVE: Global Transformation Program
FedEx is advancing its global transformation through DRIVE, a comprehensive program to improve the company’s long-term profitability and achieve its financial targets. Through DRIVE, the company expects to achieve more than $4 billion in annualized structural cost reductions by fiscal 2025. FedEx plans to host a DRIVE update call during the first half of calendar 2023 to provide additional details on the company’s ongoing transformation.


What a coincidence! DRIVE initiative in the middle of contract negotiations. #NO CONCESSIONS! DELTA+


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