Scope: FDX vs. UPS
03-13-2023 | 03:24 AM
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Again, I'm not justifying our scope section, it's terrible. With that being said Atlas wide bodies are not what I worry about with my career trajectory here.
I may be wrong. And if we see naked dudes holding a globe on our ramp in August, I'll recognize that our company has lost it's way and that will be a major tell for me.
03-13-2023 | 03:31 AM
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Also, look at last peak. How much wet leasing did we do? Barely any. It was "cheaper" to pull 7 MD10-30s out of the dessert and run that debacle of a SIBA to free up other purple tails for our anemic peak. If wet leasing was such a home run we would have seen our traditional assortment of randoms on our ramp.
The down side as a pilot group to not wet leasing is carrying extra bodies and metal during the lean months.
Belly freight, smaller ASL aircraft for reduced lift requirements, raises eyebrows for sure and is not a good thing for our group.
The down side as a pilot group to not wet leasing is carrying extra bodies and metal during the lean months.
Belly freight, smaller ASL aircraft for reduced lift requirements, raises eyebrows for sure and is not a good thing for our group.
03-13-2023 | 07:18 AM
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I don’t foresee any more wetleasing because of the direction the economy is going. I don’t think it’s that beneficial to FedEx unless our own planes are at capacity.
I do however envision FedEx requesting ASL add a different type, maybe 767s or 777s, and ASL does all inter-europe and europe-asia flying. I don’t foresee a contractor ever taking our inter-Asia flying because of intellectual property concerns in China.
I do however envision FedEx requesting ASL add a different type, maybe 767s or 777s, and ASL does all inter-europe and europe-asia flying. I don’t foresee a contractor ever taking our inter-Asia flying because of intellectual property concerns in China.
03-13-2023 | 01:13 PM
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A lackadaisical view of all recent and current wet leasing is self-defeating. Using Raj’s words, we must be ‘laser focused’ in transforming our scope language now, before they decide to increase wet leasing more.
03-13-2023 | 09:01 PM
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I don’t foresee any more wetleasing because of the direction the economy is going. I don’t think it’s that beneficial to FedEx unless our own planes are at capacity.
I do however envision FedEx requesting ASL add a different type, maybe 767s or 777s, and ASL does all inter-europe and europe-asia flying. I don’t foresee a contractor ever taking our inter-Asia flying because of intellectual property concerns in China.
I do however envision FedEx requesting ASL add a different type, maybe 767s or 777s, and ASL does all inter-europe and europe-asia flying. I don’t foresee a contractor ever taking our inter-Asia flying because of intellectual property concerns in China.
We can absolutely lose our europe and europe to asia flying to them, Atlas, or any other ACMI operator. Or multiple ACMI operators like amazon/DHL. Our scope is not weak in this area, it’s completely nonexistent.
03-13-2023 | 09:44 PM
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Section 1 B 4
Notwithstanding any other provision of the Agreement, the Company may continue to interline, co-load, code-share, part charter and en- ter into block space agreements with other carriers to move freight and service in International (outside the contiguous 48 states) markets as required . Within the Domestic system (the contiguous 48 United States) the use of the above shall be done only: (1) when necessary to expedite or (2) when economically necessary, unless otherwise agreed to by the parties .
Domestically, allowed when economically necessary. International? The world’s their oyster. The company opened section 1. I anxiously await what was TA’d.
Notwithstanding any other provision of the Agreement, the Company may continue to interline, co-load, code-share, part charter and en- ter into block space agreements with other carriers to move freight and service in International (outside the contiguous 48 states) markets as required . Within the Domestic system (the contiguous 48 United States) the use of the above shall be done only: (1) when necessary to expedite or (2) when economically necessary, unless otherwise agreed to by the parties .
Domestically, allowed when economically necessary. International? The world’s their oyster. The company opened section 1. I anxiously await what was TA’d.
03-14-2023 | 08:01 AM
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Section 1 B 4
Notwithstanding any other provision of the Agreement, the Company may continue to interline, co-load, code-share, part charter and en- ter into block space agreements with other carriers to move freight and service in International (outside the contiguous 48 states) markets as required . Within the Domestic system (the contiguous 48 United States) the use of the above shall be done only: (1) when necessary to expedite or (2) when economically necessary, unless otherwise agreed to by the parties .
Domestically, allowed when economically necessary. International? The world’s their oyster. The company opened section 1. I anxiously await what was TA’d.
Notwithstanding any other provision of the Agreement, the Company may continue to interline, co-load, code-share, part charter and en- ter into block space agreements with other carriers to move freight and service in International (outside the contiguous 48 states) markets as required . Within the Domestic system (the contiguous 48 United States) the use of the above shall be done only: (1) when necessary to expedite or (2) when economically necessary, unless otherwise agreed to by the parties .
Domestically, allowed when economically necessary. International? The world’s their oyster. The company opened section 1. I anxiously await what was TA’d.
03-16-2023 | 03:59 PM
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Short answer is our scope clause shuts those things down. There are some relatively narrow exceptions such as using a subcontracted 737 freighter to try out new international routes for up to a year before they have to put IPA crews on the route. Management has been busted using belly freight at least once is my understanding. However, this is not common practice and may have been an overly ambitious middle manager trying to goose his numbers.
03-17-2023 | 05:05 PM
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