opt0712

Copy. I am the MEC Chairman. Damn glad to meet yah!

IWantMyMTV

Check out the contract comparison page @ FedEx ALPA if you have access. There’s a clear side by side breakdown of each scope section.

Translation: FedEx senior leadership, if they so desire, can drive a Mack Truck through our scope language. No limitation on an alter ego airline being created, for example.

Or this beauty:

-Interline, co-load, code-share, part charter, and block spare agreements with other carriers (1.B.4):

4. Notwithstanding any other provision of the Agreement, the Company may continue to interline, co-load, code-share, part charter and enter into block space agreements with other carriers to move freight and service in International (outside the contiguous 48 states) markets as required. Within the Domestic system (the contiguous 48 United States) the use of the above shall be done only: (1) when necessary to expedite or (2) when economically necessary, unless otherwise agreed to by the parties.


UPS contract has very well thought out, very specific language.

With FedEx, it’s completely open ended with very few limitations.

170driver

Glad I’m not the only one feeling this way…

NotMrNiceGuy

Thanks for the insight. Didn’t know that Scope comparison was on there. Couldn’t find the full section from the contract though. There were some notable areas missing. Notably, the international subcontracting section. I did find this on the interwebs from the 2006 contract.

“All international flights presently conducted by IPA represented crewmembers will continue to be flown by such crewmembers. The Company will continually pursue additional route authority on a good faith basis. As the Company secures additional international route authority, it will take all reasonable steps to assure that such routes are flown by IPA crewmembers in accordance with this Agreement within two (2) bid periods of the date the route authority was granted. If the Company’s use of a subcontractor exceeds the two (2) bid periods under circumstances cited in this paragraph, the Company will meet with the Association to discuss the reason(s) for the delay. In no event will the Company take more than twelve (12) months to transition the new flying to the IPA, unless the parties mutually agree otherwise. The Company will report all use of subcontractors pursuant to this Section to the Association.

c. The Company will not include a cabotage route segment on an international route unless there is a legitimate operational or service reason(s) for doing so.

DaRaiders

Thanks for that. Wow. Purple’s does kinda suck.

threeighteen

And what is worse is that the union tells us there’s no way to even get UPS level scope when ctrl+c and ctrl+v has been an option for almost 30 years.

Hacker15e

The Stockholm Syndrome around Memphis about scope has been substantial for the short time I've been on property.

Too many years of seeing peak wet leases and thinking it completely normal.

That scope language in the post above is a hole that Raj and McKinsey are about to DRIVE the Titanic through sideways.

UnusualAttitude

Sadly ALPA has no interest in improving this language.

NotMrNiceGuy

I’ll admit that I’ve changed my views on this since last November. I was a “pay and retirement” only for this contract cycle. I really felt that’s the way it needed to be in order to fix retirement. And I didn't think it was fair to the negotiators to go back and fix a section that has been TA’d already.

But having seen the way the company has jacked us around over compensation, which is an open and shut case of current market rates. And the way they dragged out negotiations for no good reason. And the way they have been discussing third party shipping. The environment has changed. And I think that the union needs to put out another survey to see what the pilot group thinks at this stage. I don’t think it’s fair to the union negotiators, but this fluid environment warrants it in my opinion.

threeighteen

We absolutely got played by the company on this focused approach. I don’t care about what’s fair to the negotiators. I care about what’s fair to the pilot group. We pay our negotiators out of our pocket, they work for us. If we go back to square one, they still get paid.

No concessions, scope must be improved, no splitting the pilot group into different retirement plans, and securing industry leading pay is a minimum, with significant QOL improvements as well. Our QOL is horrible.