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Old 03-21-2023 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 0617Ld
Has anything been officially posted other then on JF..ok didn’t think so…Carry on..and welcome to the airlines for all those loosing their heads over this.
yes. Company email from VP Flt Ops.
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Old 03-21-2023 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Boxes
Company decides where (# in each seat, for every aircraft) they need pilots. Run a bid allowing seniority to determine where you end up. Those forced to move don’t have a seat lock.

junior pilots that move backwards complain. Senior pilots tell tales of past excesses. Junior pilots whine about senior pilots! History repeats itself!
Let’s say the company only needs more pilots on a specific fleet. The 767 for example. Are the junior pilots who are already on the 767 safe? Seems pointless for someone to be displaced out of the very fleet that they are needed.
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Old 03-21-2023 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Topgum
Let’s say the company only needs more pilots on a specific fleet. The 767 for example. Are the junior pilots who are already on the 767 safe? Seems pointless for someone to be displaced out of the very fleet that they are needed.
I think if you’re on the 76 you’ll be fine. Supposed to get I think 26 more. I think under the current order they have options for 50 more.
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Old 03-21-2023 | 02:59 PM
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What’s the low down on the positions that are being reduced? Curious outsider here.
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Old 03-21-2023 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Topgum
Let’s say the company only needs more pilots on a specific fleet. The 767 for example. Are the junior pilots who are already on the 767 safe? Seems pointless for someone to be displaced out of the very fleet that they are needed.
posible, absolutely. But hard to guess what happens until the numbers in each in every fleet is published. If enough MD11 FOs getting excessed go to B757 Captain then More junior captains get bumped. The former 75 captains then decide to be 76 FO then bottom 76 FOs go wherever they have seniority. So most junior at risk of being only able to hold 75 FO.

having previously awarded or actually trained from previous awards is irrelevant. This is what I understand it to be.

(Note: Not at all what I want to happen!)
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Old 03-21-2023 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Topgum
Let’s say the company only needs more pilots on a specific fleet. The 767 for example. Are the junior pilots who are already on the 767 safe? Seems pointless for someone to be displaced out of the very fleet that they are needed.
That all depends upon how much are displaced on top of you….the junior could very well (and have been in the past) displaced to a NB.

This is the result of fdx spraying and praying hiring into WBs, now seniority is all out of whack. Time for realignment. Welcome to fdx!!!!

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Old 03-21-2023 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Boxes
posible, absolutely. But hard to guess what happens until the numbers in each in every fleet is published. If enough MD11 FOs getting excessed go to B757 Captain then More junior captains get bumped. The former 75 captains then decide to be 76 FO then bottom 76 FOs go wherever they have seniority. So most junior at risk of being only able to hold 75 FO.

having previously awarded or actually trained from previous awards is irrelevant. This is what I understand it to be.

(Note: Not at all what I want to happen!)
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This is the way. We'll all be flying ****boxes and toolboxes eventually.
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Old 03-21-2023 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by md11pilot11
What’s the low down on the positions that are being reduced? Curious outsider here.
We don’t have specifics yet but if I was a bettin’ man it’s going to be mainly the MD-11 getting drawn down with movement towards the 767 and 777.
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Old 03-21-2023 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 901Dude
yes. Company email from VP Flt Ops.
Wow!!! Outlook for us Express peeps don’t look good…buckle up!
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Old 03-21-2023 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by magic rat
Wow!!! Outlook for us Express peeps don’t look good…buckle up!
We all knew the MD was going away. And it's negotiations so.....
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