Ground and Express Merger
04-07-2023 | 01:57 PM
#41
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Joined: Mar 2006
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I'm not retired. I have several years left.
I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of retro pay but no retro retirement.
I am pointing out that if you want someone within a year of retirement to vote "no", you need to guarantee them retro retirement.
I am also pointing out that one reason the company is delaying is because it saves them money every time someone retires under the old amounts.
The MEC not considering retro retirement is the ultimate "F you, I've got mine." Their action on this is despicable.
Are you, and the MEC, so blind you cannot see that?
I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of retro pay but no retro retirement.
I am pointing out that if you want someone within a year of retirement to vote "no", you need to guarantee them retro retirement.
I am also pointing out that one reason the company is delaying is because it saves them money every time someone retires under the old amounts.
The MEC not considering retro retirement is the ultimate "F you, I've got mine." Their action on this is despicable.
Are you, and the MEC, so blind you cannot see that?
04-07-2023 | 02:05 PM
#42
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I'm not retired. I have several years left.
I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of retro pay but no retro retirement.
I am pointing out that if you want someone within a year of retirement to vote "no", you need to guarantee them retro retirement.
I am also pointing out that one reason the company is delaying is because it saves them money every time someone retires under the old amounts.
The MEC not considering retro retirement is the ultimate "F you, I've got mine." Their action on this is despicable.
Are you, and the MEC, so blind you cannot see that?
I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of retro pay but no retro retirement.
I am pointing out that if you want someone within a year of retirement to vote "no", you need to guarantee them retro retirement.
I am also pointing out that one reason the company is delaying is because it saves them money every time someone retires under the old amounts.
The MEC not considering retro retirement is the ultimate "F you, I've got mine." Their action on this is despicable.
Are you, and the MEC, so blind you cannot see that?
04-07-2023 | 02:06 PM
#43
Chemtrail Dispenser..
Joined: Apr 2015
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I guess we will find out on April 13th..
04-07-2023 | 02:10 PM
#44
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I guess I am too naive to think ALPA would "not leave anyone behind". Shame on you ALPA.
04-07-2023 | 02:27 PM
#45
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If pilots over age 54 at signing of C2006 got $25K, were not all pilots entitled to $25K?
If pilots over age 54 at signing of C2015 got $40K retirement bonus, were not all pilots entitled to $40K retirement bonus?
How did you vote on these contracts?
04-07-2023 | 02:31 PM
#46
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Again, when did ALPA (or any union) negotiate for retirees?
If pilots over age 54 at signing of C2006 got $25K, were not all pilots entitled to $25K?
If pilots over age 54 at signing of C2015 got $40K retirement bonus, were not all pilots entitled to $40K retirement bonus?
How did you vote on these contracts?
If pilots over age 54 at signing of C2006 got $25K, were not all pilots entitled to $25K?
If pilots over age 54 at signing of C2015 got $40K retirement bonus, were not all pilots entitled to $40K retirement bonus?
How did you vote on these contracts?
I voted no in 2015. I voted no in 2006. I think I voted "yes" on the second half of the "bridge" contract, IIRC.
04-07-2023 | 02:33 PM
#47
Gets Weekends Off
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From: 777 Captain in Training
The people retiring after the amendment date helped build the company and FedEx ALPA!
04-07-2023 | 03:13 PM
#48
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it clearly did not come from the Company as they needed time to think it over. The. Educator does not negotiate - he could suggest but only one of the two sides can actually make a proposal and it wasn’t the company. So maybe PM is being coy saying “it wasn’t my idea” but he did in fact propose it
04-07-2023 | 04:06 PM
#49
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We negotiate for new hires not here yet by raising new hire pay last contract and apparently this time etc. It will not effect me as I have 5 years left but to say we don’t negotiate for people on the property is false.
The people retiring after the amendment date helped build the company and FedEx ALPA!
The people retiring after the amendment date helped build the company and FedEx ALPA!
So did a lot of pilots under age 54 at signing.
04-07-2023 | 04:39 PM
#50
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I took that “elephant in the room” question to be referring solely to driver consolidation, not the pilots picketing on the street below. The drivers are currently non-union, therefore outside the RLA, which was the question. The question was posed in response to the repeated claims that FedEx was going to the “one van for one neighborhood” model.
I couldn’t understand Raj’s mumbling, angry answer that trailed off in volume.
That’s how I heard it, sounds like that question might be open to interpretation.
I couldn’t understand Raj’s mumbling, angry answer that trailed off in volume.
That’s how I heard it, sounds like that question might be open to interpretation.
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