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04-08-2023, 10:31 AM
#61
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Originally Posted by HIFLYR
We negotiate for new hires not here yet by raising new hire pay last contract and apparently this time etc. It will not effect me as I have 5 years left but to say we don’t negotiate for people on the property is false.
The people retiring after the amendment date helped build the company and FedEx ALPA!
The people retiring after the amendment date helped build the company and FedEx ALPA!
04-08-2023, 11:57 AM
#62
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Originally Posted by Tuck
it clearly did not come from the Company as they needed time to think it over. The. Educator does not negotiate - he could suggest but only one of the two sides can actually make a proposal and it wasn’t the company. So maybe PM is being coy saying “it wasn’t my idea” but he did in fact propose it
So, the mediator has an idea and makes a suggestion on how to move things forward. The NC says they are willing to explore that idea, so that makes it the NC's proposal? Come on man! It was the mediators idea, he proposed the idea. The company is mulling it over the same way that the NC is. Both sides are seeing if it will work.
04-08-2023, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
So, the mediator has an idea and makes a suggestion on how to move things forward. The NC says they are willing to explore that idea, so that makes it the NC's proposal? Come on man! It was the mediators idea, he proposed the idea. The company is mulling it over the same way that the NC is. Both sides are seeing if it will work.
04-08-2023, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
So, the mediator has an idea and makes a suggestion on how to move things forward. The NC says they are willing to explore that idea, so that makes it the NC's proposal? Come on man! It was the mediators idea, he proposed the idea. The company is mulling it over the same way that the NC is. Both sides are seeing if it will work.
in this case it IS the NC proposal. Else they could have rejected it.
04-08-2023, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
We would be fools to accept any kind of pay raise that is tied to any metric controlled by the company.
04-09-2023, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
We would be fools to accept any kind of pay raise that is tied to any metric controlled by the company.
I agree that tying guaranteed pay rates to any company metric is foolish. However, I would entertain guaranteed industry leading rates of pay along with profit sharing(a company controlled metric) which a lot on here seem to think is great because Delta has it.
04-09-2023, 05:54 PM
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This is just one man's opinion.
This management team makes big plans, but their execution is pretty lacking. They are perpetually missing forecasts and it seems like ****ing off their customers is the key to success. When you're delivery and logistics company and you don't deliver when you say you will you're gonna have a revenue problem not a cost problem. The market has proven there a customers who will pay for speed and reliability. I thought that was what the purple promise was all about. Innovate (or at least appear to) and Wall Street will fire money at you with a cannon. Cost cutting will only attract the casino patrons looking to pad their returns in the short term. For these reason's alone we should not be entertaining anything contract related tied to executing plans we don't influence, approve, or control.
They should change the motto from "The World on Time" to "You'll get you #%#$ when you get it"
This management team makes big plans, but their execution is pretty lacking. They are perpetually missing forecasts and it seems like ****ing off their customers is the key to success. When you're delivery and logistics company and you don't deliver when you say you will you're gonna have a revenue problem not a cost problem. The market has proven there a customers who will pay for speed and reliability. I thought that was what the purple promise was all about. Innovate (or at least appear to) and Wall Street will fire money at you with a cannon. Cost cutting will only attract the casino patrons looking to pad their returns in the short term. For these reason's alone we should not be entertaining anything contract related tied to executing plans we don't influence, approve, or control.
They should change the motto from "The World on Time" to "You'll get you #%#$ when you get it"
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